Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:11:50 -0400
Reply-To:     mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Fwd: Painting
In-Reply-To:  <C152FC6B.BD9B%robertmstewart@mac.com>
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Maaco and Earl Scheib are both franchises. I think Maaco was so long before
Scheib. SO, like all franchises, McDonalds included, your mileage may vary.

It seems logical that the more prep you do your self and the farther you
strip the body, the less the work will cost in shop. I think I owuldn't
hesitate to use a Maaco or Earl Scheib if I had confidence that its was well
run and staffed with good bodymen(persons).

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From: robertmstewart <robertmstewart@mac.com>
Date: Oct 11, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Painting
To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com

RE: Cost for the Split: I was told it was the $600. 3 coats with the clear
mixed in.
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on 10/11/06 4:00 PM, Jake de Villiers at crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM
wrote:

> How much was the paint job on the Split that you looked at?
>
> Inquiring minds and all that.
>
> On 10/11/06, robertmstewart <robertmstewart@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Had to chime in here..
>>
>> 5 days ago I passed by a Maaco paint shop. It was along this road in the
>> middle of no where in near Middletown NY.
>>
>> I noticed a nice 60's bus with a 2 tone paint job (cream and orange)
>> sitting
>> in their fenced in space.
>>
>> I drove in the get a quote and see the quality of their work. I know that
>> many people have suggested their work to be poor but I had to check for
>> myself.
>>
>> One of the staff there told me that had a van there that was identical to
>> my
>> 88 Wolfsburg which they just completed 3 days before.  They all told it
>> looked great.
>>
>> Well I checked the 60ıs bus they did, and out 10 I would give it an 8. I
>> was
>> told it was a complete rust bucket which they had to do major work on.
The
>> color density was excellent, very evenly applied, the body surface was
>> smooth and even with only one visible artifact which I pointed out. (it
>> was
>> a small 1/4" long drip that was roughly 1/8" wide). They told me it would
>> be
>> buffed out before completion. The paint job was two tone and there was a
>> visible small ridge 1/16th inch between the two paint areas where the
>> color
>> met but they said it would be buffed and owner was putting some
>> pin-striping
>> over that area.
>>
>> So onto the quote for the van, here's what I was told.
>> Van painting - $600 (this is 3 coat paint job with clear coat added to
the
>> paint during each paint application and the paint is heated and cured
>> between coats. This paint is guaranteed for 3 years)
>>
>> Option 2 is a $1,000 paint job which has a base coat and several color
>> coats
>> and uses an additional final clear coat which is guaranteed for 4 years.
>>
>> I have some minor rust in 4 seams and asked about the cost to remove it,
>> they said $400. This included everything needed in a flat price to make
it
>> new looking.
>>
>> I also have some minor rust on 2 window seams (about 1 inch) they said it
>> would $75 per window to repair it.
>>
>> So overall I thought given the quality of the paint job I witnessed I
>> would
>> go for it. I have seen a lot of work before and this was definitely a
>> decent
>> job. Itıs no custom shop job with super amazing PPG paints and clear
coats
>> that have super deep luster but for $600 it did look very good. I myself
>> will probably go for the $1,000 dollar job in the future after I price
>> compare with the other local shops.
>>
>> Just my thoughts..
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> --
>> Rob
>> NYC/Long Beach, NY
>> 88 Wolfsburg, Silver
>> http://web.mac.com/rmstewart
>> AIM: rmstewart@mac.com
>>
>>
>> on 10/11/06 3:09 PM, Jeff Lincoln at magikvw@GMAIL.COM wrote:
>>
>>> This is just a simple opinion question - I'm sure to get a response :)
>>>
>>> If cost is a major option - what are the lists thoughts on having a bus
>>> painted at an Earl Sceib or similar mass painting shop. I tend to be
>> very
>>> apprehensive of their claims. However, what is really the difference
>> between
>>> what they will do for $750 or what a small independent shop will do for
>>> thousands?
>>>
>>> I'm not trying to be cheap but $$$$ are always an issue at this point in
>>> life.If a $750 paint job is going to last me many years it may be worth
>> it -
>>> then again I would want it to be of at least good quality and
>> workmanship. I
>>> know it is sort of a dumb question because what I am really asking about
>> is
>>> quality but your opinions will help as I have no bench mark or
>> experience
>>> with any of this.
>>>
>>> I'm also once again getting ahead of myself as it will be quite a while
>>> before I am ready to make any decisions on this.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> 90' Carat (It's Blue, It's Beautiful, It needs a lot of work)
>>> 86' (Soon to be donating organs to the 90')
>>> 85' GL (sidelined but to be resurrected in the near future)
>>
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