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Date:         Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:49:51 -0400
Reply-To:     mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Fwd: Painting
In-Reply-To:  <C2EE73EA-A449-48F1-9CA0-2D76E8B50F45@gmail.com>
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Used one such good old boy for a insurance claim repair. He took three weeks to finish, damaged a side mirror, didn't remove the dent and defrauded my insurer by billing for a door skin he never replaced. I asked him in front of the adjuster if it had been hard to find a new doorskin with the same dent as the old one. It turned out the adjuster was complicit. The paint was never cured properly either so it never was hard enough to polish.

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Evans <markimus@gmail.com> Date: Oct 11, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: Painting To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com

DO NOT GO THERE!

Maaco will rip you off. I had my 2003 VW Beetle Vert done there after it was keyed from the front bumper to the back. It was covered in runs, the surface was literally gritty, they got paint on every window and every piece of trim, the got paint on my freaking tires!

I paid for the super paint job with a long term warranty. They would not honor the warranty or the work. They said they'd fix it. I took it in. 3 weeks later they hadn't done anything. I finally gave up.

When I traded it in I took a $1000 hit on the trade in price because the dealership was going to have to repaint it.

Find a good ol' boy in the country that people trust.

Mark

On Oct 11, 2006, at 3:46 PM, robertmstewart wrote:

> Had to chime in here.. > > 5 days ago I passed by a Maaco paint shop. It was along this road > in the > middle of no where in near Middletown NY. > > I noticed a nice 60's bus with a 2 tone paint job (cream and > orange) sitting > in their fenced in space. > > I drove in the get a quote and see the quality of their work. I > know that > many people have suggested their work to be poor but I had to check > for > myself. > > One of the staff there told me that had a van there that was > identical to my > 88 Wolfsburg which they just completed 3 days before. They all > told it > looked great. > > Well I checked the 60's bus they did, and out 10 I would give it an > 8. I was > told it was a complete rust bucket which they had to do major work > on. The > color density was excellent, very evenly applied, the body surface was > smooth and even with only one visible artifact which I pointed out. > (it was > a small 1/4" long drip that was roughly 1/8" wide). They told me it > would be > buffed out before completion. The paint job was two tone and there > was a > visible small ridge 1/16th inch between the two paint areas where > the color > met but they said it would be buffed and owner was putting some pin- > striping > over that area. > > So onto the quote for the van, here's what I was told. > Van painting - $600 (this is 3 coat paint job with clear coat added > to the > paint during each paint application and the paint is heated and cured > between coats. This paint is guaranteed for 3 years) > > Option 2 is a $1,000 paint job which has a base coat and several > color coats > and uses an additional final clear coat which is guaranteed for 4 > years. > > I have some minor rust in 4 seams and asked about the cost to > remove it, > they said $400. This included everything needed in a flat price to > make it > new looking. > > I also have some minor rust on 2 window seams (about 1 inch) they > said it > would $75 per window to repair it. > > So overall I thought given the quality of the paint job I witnessed > I would > go for it. I have seen a lot of work before and this was definitely > a decent > job. It's no custom shop job with super amazing PPG paints and > clear coats > that have super deep luster but for $600 it did look very good. I > myself > will probably go for the $1,000 dollar job in the future after I price > compare with the other local shops. > > Just my thoughts.. > > Rob > > -- > Rob > NYC/Long Beach, NY > 88 Wolfsburg, Silver > http://web.mac.com/rmstewart > AIM: rmstewart@mac.com > > > on 10/11/06 3:09 PM, Jeff Lincoln at magikvw@GMAIL.COM wrote: > >> This is just a simple opinion question - I'm sure to get a >> response :) >> >> If cost is a major option - what are the lists thoughts on having >> a bus >> painted at an Earl Sceib or similar mass painting shop. I tend to >> be very >> apprehensive of their claims. However, what is really the >> difference between >> what they will do for $750 or what a small independent shop will >> do for >> thousands? >> >> I'm not trying to be cheap but $$$$ are always an issue at this >> point in >> life.If a $750 paint job is going to last me many years it may be >> worth it - >> then again I would want it to be of at least good quality and >> workmanship. I >> know it is sort of a dumb question because what I am really asking >> about is >> quality but your opinions will help as I have no bench mark or >> experience >> with any of this. >> >> I'm also once again getting ahead of myself as it will be quite a >> while >> before I am ready to make any decisions on this. >> >> -- >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff >> 90' Carat (It's Blue, It's Beautiful, It needs a lot of work) >> 86' (Soon to be donating organs to the 90') >> 85' GL (sidelined but to be resurrected in the near future)


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