Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:10:01 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: A RANT : Westy Tires in Canada
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Try bringing that astronomical price difference to the attention of the
store owner/ manager. You'll be surprised at what they can do sometimes.
On 10/19/06, Jeff Lincoln <magikvw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My motto for personal, as well as business, purchases - be it services or
> merchandise - "Buy Local whenever possible"
>
> I know this has NVC but I feel *very* strongly about this. Only when what
> I
> want isn't available local or the price difference is astronomical would I
> consider anything else.
>
>
> On 10/19/06, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Welcome to the 21st century David.
> >
> > The tire shop you remember as a kid just closed its doors here in my
> area,
> > victim of the same forces that are killing off all our community
> > resources.
> >
> > Costco, Wal*Mart, Home Depot and Online shopping get the majority of
> > people's spending, leaving the locals with nothing but 'investigative
> > shoppers'.
> >
> > There is no easy answer to this onslaught but to be aware of how
> important
> > your consumer dollars are to your local economy.
> > That's why I continue to promote and support The Bug Shop and Bow-Wow
> here
> > in Vancouver. Having a local resource is WAY more important to me than a
> > possible perceived discount and in actual fact, Bow-Wow is often
> > considerably cheaper than Bus Depot or GoWesty. They are also willing
> to
> > order parts that they don't stock, help with tech issues and generally
> > reciprocate with their customers.
> >
> > Seeya, Jake
> >
> > On 10/19/06, David Etter <detter@mail.auracom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > WARNING:: THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT BRANDS OR SIZES OF TIRES......IT
> > > IS A RANT ABOUT DEALER SERVICE OR THE LACK THEREOF.
> > >
> > > OK! You've all been there... a little nagging feeling every time you
> > > go past your van... "Gee! I really should get a new set of tires,
> > > those are starting to look a little scary", or perhaps you've just
> > > bought an older vehicle and have determined that you are in the
> > > market for a new set of 185 or 195/75-14 'D' rated tires.
> > > Well I am there now, and have been for most of the summer and
> > > I am p_ _ _ed off with the reception I have been getting here.
> > > As you go up to the order desk and approach a disinterested
> > > face who couldn't care less; I have heard it all before........
> > >
> > > .."Oh! I don't think we sell enough of those to warrant getting them
> > > in and the fella who knows about those things is out on break and
> > > will be back after dinner". (so with 4 sales persons standing around
> > > and a shop full of workers, nobody else knows anything- jeesh?)
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > .."Hey George.. what are we using now for a substitute tire for a
> > > Van-a - what did you say and how old is it?"...
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > .."Yeh we can get 'um but it'll cost you an arm and a leg and take a
> > > couple of weeks, so we recommend ya da - ya da - ya da and we can
> > > have those by tomorrow."
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > .." OK! Let me see now.... Oh Yeh... we have one only in stock in a
> > > bigger size but can order more if you want to pay a deposit. "
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > lying through his teeth with .." Nah! They aren't making those any
> > > more (or that size) and everyone is switching to brand X or Y."
> > >
> > > Then there is the price. It is consistently much higher and
> > > sometimes double the price normally found South of the border.
> > >
> > > The following is the result of my sporatic research here in Edmonton
> > > Alberta for 195/75-14 8 ply tires.
> > >
> > > Hankook RA08 = $600.00/4 that's if they can get in touch with the
> > > distributor, maybe...and...
> > > Continental Vanco = $717.00/ 4
> > > Michelin Agillis =$800.00/ 4 (185 series)
> > > Cooper Tires .. so much higher that I threw away the quote when I left
> > the
> > > shop
> > > Vredestein Tires.. just try and find a dealer
> > > and finally...
> > > Nexon = $525.00/4 sounds good but I have never even heard of them,
> > > has anyone else.
> > >
> > > These prices may or may not include tax, installation and balancing;
> > > the dealers were so disinterested in helping me that I was not always
> > > able to determine whether or not those fees were included.
> > > Now to be fair to Edmonton dealers, there is a booming oil
> > > industry right now along with all the related business, so they are
> > > very busy and they really don't have time to fart around with stupid
> > > requests for a 25 year old VW camper.
> > > Still in all... it's a task I haven't finished and one that I
> > > can only face after time has healed the wounds of derision and when
> > > fortified with a rebuilt sense of self worth.
> > > What ever happened to those dealers who knew their stuff,
> > > genuinely cared and weren't in the business of extortion.
> > > `I can remember my neighbourhood service station where I
> > > lived as a kid. They had a soda fountain where you could buy a banana
> > > split for 25 cents and if you couldn't finish it there you could take
> > > the dish home and bring it back the next day. The owner and his wife
> > > ran the station and soda fountain and had two swell guys with
> > > families of their own tending the pumps who would fix your bicycle
> > > tire for a quarter. When someone came in for gas they got full
> > > service with a oil check and even a tire check if it looked like it
> > > needed it.
> > > They always seemed to have the tires you needed and always
> > > had a smile and the time to talk. Not only that, the weather was
> > > always sunny and warm too.. Sigh!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Aghhhhhh! David (dsl82westy)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jake
> > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
> 90' Carat (It's Blue, It's Beautiful, It needs a lot of work)
> 86' (Soon to be donating organs to the 90')
> 85' GL (sidelined but to be resurrected in the near future)
>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
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