Date:         Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:35:46 -0700
Reply-To:     Nathaniel Poole <npoole@TELUS.NET>
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From:         Nathaniel Poole <npoole@TELUS.NET>
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I believe you can get a feel when you talk to folks. This unlike the guy who
rebuilt the engine off of Craig's list who was evasive and didn't have the
time of day for me, I've talked at length three different times with the
guys at the Bug shop and they go into great detail (even before I sent them
the engine) into what could be the problem and why and what would likely
need to be done and why. And after taking it apart they described what they
found, suggested a number of different ways I could go, and why, and the
advantage and costs of each. No mystery, everything is explained and no one
is in in a hurry to blow you off. I got a real sense of professionalism and
experience from them. And they are very very busy.


On 10/28/06 9:33 AM, "Jake de Villiers" <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
wrote:

> While I have the greatest respect for Bob's knowledge of the flat four VW
> engine, I am certain that Shane and Eddie at The Bug Shop are among the very
> best at preparing these motors.
> 
> If Neil gets those guys to build his motor it will have good power and last
> a long time.
> 
> On 10/28/06, Mike Bucchino <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Dennis,
>> 
>>   There are plenty of 'experienced' engine rebuilders, charging people
>> money
>> for their services, that are iffy at best.
>> 
>>   Maybe you should ask Boston Bob about his formula on how to rebuild
>> these
>> engines to last, better than factory.
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure he can tell you all about it.
>> 
>> Mike B.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dennis Haynes" <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: <no subject>
>> 
>> 
>> Most likely the bearings came loose again after a number of overheating
>> events. An out of balance flywheel-clutch assembly can pound the heck out
>> of
>> this, especially if the thrust was not shimmed correctly.  As far as age,
>> it
>> is probably 10 years since VW had these engines available. There are many
>> reasons why these things do not last as rebuilds.
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>> Nathaniel Poole
>> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:41 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: <no subject>
>> 
>> Back to the morass. Just spoke with the boys in the bug shop and it turns
>> out that my engine is a factory (dealer) rebuild, which is good for me in
>> that the internal components are in good shape. Don't know how I missed
>> the
>> sticker. It's not an old rebuild judging by bearing wear, colour and
>> condition of pistons and con rods. He figgers maybe 50,000 kilometres at
>> most. But the downside is that when they line-bored the case they didn't
>> do
>> it right and left too much clearance for a few bearings which is why the
>> thrust bearing can move in its seat and is now worn. This is a dealer
>> rebuild and they still didn't do it right. I can see an average Joe-Shmo
>> shop not knowing how to do a proper VW rebuild, but you would think VW
>> would. What is really scary is that as time passes, there will be fewer
>> and
>> fewer shops that will know how to do this stuff properly. Maybe thatıs not
>> such a bad thing as these engines are so archaic and out-dated, but for
>> all
>> their shortcomings no one can deny they have character.
>> 
> 
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