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Date:         Thu, 9 Nov 2006 08:57:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Daniel Stevens <dosteven@SYR.EDU>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Daniel Stevens <dosteven@SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: battery in engine compartment
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How to start..

well all of the Diesel vans put the battery on a shelf in the engine compartment for a shorter battery supply cable. so it's been done factory, just not for a air/wasserboxer.. in our sunroof van we put the starting batter in the passanger side taillight compartment.. so YES they do fit in there. have to slide it out for service. as for yadda yadda yadda weight distribution.. 1 why would you assume that you would remove the batt from the front location. save the westy weight?? man I hear that all the time one would think that weight worry died with kids ripping the AC and power steering from their Neons.. it's a freakin 3/4 ton rated VAN.. camper at that.. rated to carry up to 9 adults.. well maybe 1 child but .. say 9x175lbs thats 1575lbs.. Oh wait add some gear/stuff/groceries OVER THE BACK DECK.. cause thats where thats designed to carry stuff.. your wstfalia cabinets maybe account for the weight of 2~3 adults.. nah.. not even that heavy.. try the Riviera cabinets.. 3/4" particle board and loaded down with building supplies (12 bags of 60# concrete, several 4x4x10 posts et al). along with 2 adults and tank of fuel.

in hvy snow like we get here all winter, my van likes to have 2 bags or 'tube/traction sand' over the back deck.. so either 40-80 lbs of sand with little additional use or1-2 extra batteries that allow me to not live by candle light if it's raining and i'm just kicking back reading/listening to music with the furnace on.

sooo yeah add some freakin batteries.. fire up the illumination and dvd.. make it comfortable.. I do laugh when I see campers @ westy events who ran their 1 battery down overnight.. *shrugs, I just pull out the jump pack.. I guess thats heavy too. *shrugs..

Oh and TAKE THAT DANG GAS CAN OFF THE OVERHEAD LUGGAGE RACK.. (thats my biggest PEEVE) if 2 gals of gas is gunna save yer butt. buy more gas at the last station you passed.

1980 ASI Riviera w/ Turbo Diesel conversion. and 4 batteries. 1 each front seat, 2 under the back seat.

From: Mike Bucchino <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET> Subject: Re: Type 2s battery in engine compartment

Same deal, only even worse in this spot on the Vanagon. I looked into mine by removing the right taillight today. I don't believe it's got enough headroom in that location (even considering that a european battery is a bit shorter than others). There would be plenty of cool air from the side vent grill above, but the air cleaner horn protrudes several inches into it for a cool air source for the engine. I'm sure there's a way to reroute this horn, if you really wanted to. This would take away ballast from the front (where it's needed) and move it to the rear (where it's definitely not needed). Battery access would be very difficult for jumpstarting, checking, cleaning, and replacing.

Overall, your percieved benefit of shorter main wire length is greatly outweighed by all the negative factors.

Request disapproved; resubmit in 30 days for further disapproval........

Mike B.


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