Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:21:13 -0800
Reply-To: TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
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From: TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
Subject: Re: BAQ6 heater with a wall mount themostat possible ??
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would something like they work
http://www.super-feed.com/dctimer.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "TC" <trclark@shaw.ca>
To: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: BAQ6 heater with a wall mount themostat possible ??
> Well
> I thought about this a bit more and and I think maybe a programable timer
> would be a better option
> (I think run for say 15 mins every 60 mins they turn off, just to keep a
bit
> of residual heat in the van over night
> as opposed to trying to hold a constant temp ...this way it wont run all
the
> long)
> I played around on Sat & now have the unit running off my 2nd battery so
if
> it realy does have these huge draw
> then it would not matter if it kills the battery over night ... my LVD
will
> cut out beofre any bterry damage anyways)
> So just an appeal to the Ba6 experts here any sugestion on a 12v digital
> programable timer that might work here
> any maybe how they think the best wring for this purpose might be done
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: BAQ6 heater with a wall mount themostat possible ??
>
>
> > Tim,
> >
> > The very nature of this BA =-6 heater defies the
> > use of the wall thermostat.
> >
> > It's designed to run continously instead of
> > cycling compltetely off and then back on again,
> > like a propane or home central heating furnace .
> >
> > The reason: The battery. When starting a BA-6 up
> > , the glow coil in the plug draws about 400
> > watts. Once running, the watts are down to 50.
> >
> > This translated into AMPS is about 10 amps while
> > running.
> > If you have an 80 amp hour capacity battery, this
> > means that you will be using 10 amps per hour = X
> > 8 hours = 80 amp hours or dead battery in 8-12
> > hours of continous use.
> >
> > Now if you decide you want to run it from a
> > thermostat, then the heater will run then shut
> > off, then start all over again.
> >
> > Each time it starts, it will draw about 400 watts
> > (48 Amps).
> > How often the heater cycles on and off will
> > depend on the outside temperature.
> >
> >
> > The BA-6 heater is designed to produce more heat
> > by lengthening of the burn cycle, which is done
> > my turning the heat knob further to the right.
> >
> >
> > This heat regulating switch gets a variable
> > resistance input from a heat sensor downstream
> > from the heater.
> >
> > Someone posted to the list a long time ago that
> > they used a wall thermostat, but nothing was
> > heard from them after that!
> >
> > In that configuration the heater will run full
> > time without cycling the burner on and off,
> > which will also conserve energy.
> >
> > Just how to do it I don't know, because I only
> > set these up stock and I am reluctant to tamper
> > with the built in safety .
> >
> > Running with a thermostat poses a danger: it can
> > be left on and forgotten, then when the ambient
> > temperature drops to trigger it, the heater will
> > come on with or without you, which could be
> > dangerous if the vehicle is parked over dry grass
> > or leaves, or in a closed garage.
> >
> > The BA-6 was designed to be used while driving or
> > parked briefly. There is an Eberspacher BA-5
> > heater made for camping, that was installed in
> > the Europeans version campers such as the Dehler
> > -Profi. That one has a low current draw and uses
> > less fuel.
> >
> > It's an older heater. The new Espars are the D &
> > B1LC compacts. The B1LC is the gasoline version.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > 1982 Westfalia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- TC <trclark@SHAW.CA> wrote:
> >
> > > Well the universe says
> > > VW and Eberspacher did make a 24 hour timer for
> > > the BA6 and BN4 heaters.
> > > anybody reading this and has one pmail pls
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "TC" <trclark@SHAW.CA>
> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 2:27 PM
> > > Subject: BAQ6 heater with a wall mount
> > > themostat possible ??
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > 85GL 1.9 with BA6 heater as std equp.
> > > > I think finally I have my #@%^&*(& BA6 heater
> > > working like it was designed
> > > > new combustion blower, switch, recirulation
> > > blower
> > > > ( after all the time learning, trouble
> > > shooting & soucing part for the POS
> > > I
> > > > should of just bellied up to the bar
> > > > and put in a propex ...
> > > > but that is all water under the bridge ...
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if anybody that way more
> > > exerince with these things if it
> > > is
> > > > possible to
> > > > wall mount thermostat in the cabin so that it
> > > can be used to control the
> > > > header
> > > > & run off / on to maintain heat over night...
> > > >
> > > > dont worry about power i have it running off
> > > the house battery if it kills
> > > > it over night so be it...
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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