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Date:         Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:52:12 EST
Reply-To:     JordanVw@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         JordanVw@AOL.COM
Subject:      Re: VW 411, 412 models  (nvc)
Comments: To: oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM
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In a message dated 12/17/06 3:08:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM writes:

> > When I was into this biz full swing I would constantly have an eye peeled > not for the flashy over priced "one-offs", but for the underrated special > models to buy fix up (or clean up) and resell them to a good home that would > appreciate them. Take 411/412 models (yeah, I know, take 'em > all....please!!!), VW's "Edsel". They actually produced a big bunch of > these. To give you an idea of how many, there were more 411/412s produced > from 1969 thru 1974 than the entire 18 year production run of the Karmann > Ghia (56-74). But there were certain models produced within VW's "Edsel" > line that are hard to find and together with my buddy Cliff Crate, we buy > 'em up, fix many of their problems (non-functioning auto trannies being the > biggest expense,) and clean 'em up, then re-sell them for almost no profit > to an enthusiast to drive or fix 'em up more. It's a cult following, but > most of them have ended up in the crusher over the years so now they're > becoming fewer and fewer. Cliff and I are always prowling the Samba, > wrecking yards and VW shows for hard-to-find pieces and his backyard has > become probably a lot like your farm property, just visualize Type 4s and > tons of related parts instead. Our "cute" name for it is the "Black Hole", > where everything goes in and little comes back out because......well y'know > 411/412 stuff isn't (and never will be) the rage of VW-dom ;-) Same idea > and focus, just a different model. > > Yeah, all the rest of ya out there can guffaw and laugh, but as long as > Cliff and I can make someone happy with VW's "Ugly Duckling", we're just > fine with that. > > Oh....My late father and I, not being the total purists that some people out > there are, the last 10 years we had that 50 Bug (being totally restored > otherwise) had it outfitted with a 2180, Dual 40IDFs, Joe Hunt Scintilla > Magneto, Tunnel Trans totally beefed out and Porsche 356B brakes all the way > around. Ya think we were gonna "daily drive" it in California on 25HP? It > was a lot of fun lighting up those skinny 16" tires at the Vintage Meets. > > Now if I can just find a nice Doka or Single Cab Vanagon to tool around > in.....sigh. > -- > Jim Thompson > 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" > 73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise" > 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" > oldvolkshome@gmail.com > http://www.oldvolkshome.com >

hi jim...i found a '74 412 a few years back.. it only had like 40k original miles.. it was harvest gold metallic.. and had the factory roof rack, and a gas heater and auto trans.. and porsche 914 wheels.. also had this wierd little map light thing under the dashboard?? anyway, it was a cool car.. sold it to a friend of mine, he had is shipped to atlanta.. and that was the last i heard of it.. i wish i would have kept it.. very cool.. and actually very fast...

chris


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