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Date:         Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:23:11 -0500
Reply-To:     "Dr.Chris" <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Dr.Chris" <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bad tint job rant / any advice?
Comments: To: John Rodgers <inua@charter.net>
In-Reply-To:  <458AB2CD.6080205@charter.net>
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Here are some direct links to pics for anyone who does not have access to the yahoogroups website:

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/upperrear.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/upperpassenger.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/rearpassenger.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/passengerwindow.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/passengervent.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/DoctorChris/passengerrear.jpg

I left a message for the shop owner and will be going up to his shop as soon as he's in.

If these air bubbles do disappear over time then great, and I have not done anythig to the windows (and won't) until I've talked to him. But the tint job was finished on Monday and it is Thursday morning so they've already had a couple of days to work themselves out.

Chris

On 12/21/06, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote: > Sorry to hear of your problems with this. > > I think Sudhir's advice is best. Take it back to the installers. If it's > decent shop, you should have warranties on labor and materials. > > It also sounds as if you were not properly informed and eductaed by the > tint shop, an essential thing for good service. > > My son has for years run the most successful tint shop in Birmingham, > AL. He spends a lot time educating his customers, and he has three > generations in families coming to him now for their tint work. > > In his shop, they often do cutouts around hardware. It depends on the > situation. It's a some times yes, sometime no kind of thing that is > determined by the degree of difficulty, relative gain in performance, > and what kind of difficulties might be induced by removing hardware > rather than making cutouts. > > Also, newly installed tint will always have some water bubbles trapped > under it. Out in the light these look for all the world like massive air > bubbles. I can't tell you how many time - in spite of the educating of > the customer - they bring them back complaining of "air bubbles'. These > disappear over a few days - especially in summer's heat - as the water > dissapates and the glue cures. > > During that curing time it is essential that no windows be cranked down. > It is really easy to pull up the edges of newly installed tint. It often > requires installing new tint. > > Don't clean a newly installed tint job after it leaves the shop. Give it > several days to let that glue cure. And even then, use ONLY Johnsons > baby shampoo diluted 2 tablespoons to a quart of water. It cleans well, > floats away and dust or dirt, and leaves the oils in the tint. Any agent > with ammonia in it will destroy the tint by removing the oils. > > Not defending the tint shop that did your job, just pointing out > somethings that customers often are not told. > > Good luck, > > Regards, > > John Rodgers > 88 GL Driver > > Dr.Chris wrote: > > I've uploaded some photos to the "1986 AdventureWesty Syncro GL" > > directory the direct link is: > > > > http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/vanagon/photos/browse/f4cf > > > > The job looks even worse in real life, it is very hard to photograph > > tint flaws due to reflections and focus issues. > > > > Looking at it in daylight though the rear window is the worst part the > > WHOLE JOB looks like crap. There are bubbles in every window some MUCH > > worse than others, the tint is even damaged from the inside on one > > window. > > > > Chris > > > > On 12/20/06, Dr. Chris <gronski@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I started a separate thread about removing my vent windows to have > >> them re-tinted but I wanted your take on what a professional tint job > >> should really look like. > >> > >> I was dismayed that the upper rear window of the AW top looks like one > >> of those cheesy home jobs after being on back window for five years... > >> only the tint job is brand new. > >> > >> The skylight on the AW top does not go to the edge, and the gap is > >> uneven. Although you can't see tyhis with the skylight closed it > >> speaks to shoddy workmanship. > >> > >> The vent windows have cutouts in them to go around the associated > >> hardware, and the worst part about that is that they are right there > >> in my eyeline all the time to to remind me. > >> > >> Thankfully I removed all the hardware from the sliding windows so at > >> least I think they will come out OK. > >> > >> In a bunch of spots I can see smudges and dirt, but can't tell if it > >> is inside or outside the car. I'm going to call the manager of the > >> tint shop tomorrow and see what he says about washing the windows > >> BEFORE I wash them to find out the status... lest he blames the tint > >> flaws on my washing job. > >> > >> Tomorrow morning I will upload photos to the Yahoo groups website or > >> p-mail anyone who is interested. > >> > >> Any advice on how to handle this? > >> > >> Chris > >> > > > > > > >


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