Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 23:54:34 -0500
Reply-To: Joy Hecht <jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
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From: Joy Hecht <jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Baie Comeau to Labrador to Newfoundland (gas price)
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Well, the price of land will factor in - capital costs of building a gas
station, also property taxes (operating costs related to land value). (You
have property taxes in Canada, yes? Do you call them rates, like the
Brits?) Fuel delivery costs may vary with congestion in urban areas. Lots
of factors play into gas prices. I'm sure there are transportation
economists who have analyzed regional variations in fuel prices, no doubt
they have more complete explanations. But this list is about vanagons, not
transportation economics!
Joy
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From: Greg Potts [mailto:greg@pottsfamily.ca]
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:19 PM
To: Joy Hecht
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Baie Comeau to Labrador to Newfoundland (gas price)
Hi Joy,
That may be so, but that doesn't explain the difference between Toronto and
Ottawa; we're in the same province. By all the economic rules, Toronto
should have cheaper gas than Ottawa. We're closer to the refineries AND we
have a bigger population.
Part of the problem in Vancouver and Edmonton is that they are boom-towns.
Dunno why they're getting soaked in Regina though.
....Well, yes... Actually I do know why:.
"Because they can".
Happy Trails,
Greg Potts
1973/74/77/79 Westfakia "Bob The Tomato
www.pottsfamily.ca
On 7-Jan-07, at 7:40 PM, Joy Hecht wrote:
Do you have provincial taxes on gasoline in Canada? State taxes explain a
lot of the regional variation in prices around the US.
Joy
:::-----Original Message-----
:::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
:::Of Greg Potts
:::Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:05 PM
:::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
:::Subject: Re: Baie Comeau to Labrador to Newfoundland (gas price)
:::
:::Hi George,
:::
:::My Bad... I was simply parroting the excuse told to me by my
:::coworkers in Edmonton, when I remarked how their gas cost more than
:::ours in Toronto. I guess that was the story that had been handed to
:::them to keep them quiet.
:::
:::My big gas gripe is that gas prices in Ottawa are consistently lower
:::than anywhere else in the country, and there are no refineries
:::anywhere near the place. I expect that the oil companies are just
:::trying to keep the politicians in our capital from noticing the
:::screwing over that the rest of the country is getting.
:::
:::
:::Happy Trails,
:::
:::Greg Potts
:::1973/74/77/79 Westfakia "Bob The Tomato
:::www.pottsfamily.ca
:::
:::
:::
:::
:::On 7-Jan-07, at 5:20 PM, George Thorburn wrote:
:::
:::> Greg wrote;
:::>>> Gas in Toronto is currently selling at less than $.85 per litre. I
:::>>> saw gas last night for $.74/L and this afternoon for $.82/L. $.
:::>>> 82CDN/
:::>>> L works out to 2.62US/USgallon.
:::>
:::>>> Out west in Vancouver it was $1.09/L when I was there on Wednesday.
:::>>> The further you are from a refinery, the more expensive it will be.
:::>
:::> WRONG!!!
:::> We live in Regina and there is a refinery in the city. There are
:::> working oilfields within an hours drive. We pay about $0.96 per
:::> litre. The price of gas and diesel at the pump has more to do with
:::> oil company profit margins and taxes (local, provincial and
:::> federal) than transportation costs. Gas refined in Regina is sold
:::> for less 4 hours away in North Dakota.
:::> I agree that if you go to remote areas with low population
:::> densities you will pay extra.
:::> George,
:::> '85 Westfalia
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