Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:04:25 -0800
Reply-To: Zoltan <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Zoltan <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Boston Bob engines - Use caution
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In the same spirit, let me say this.
Dan has reported something we also wanted to know. Just think about a case
when you think you are right and can't get your warranty actiavated. That
is how Dan felt like. Frustrated, pissed off, helpless, etc. He reported
it in true help in mind, for us to know and "Use caution". While he vented
some steam too. Us, who are not on the receiving end, can be very
indifferent, don't care attitude. We don't feel his real pain. We did not
loose thousands on that deal. Now, here we also make him feel bad and may
even accuse him trying to cash in on his own fault. Tough to take it again.
His report has given us something to think about. It was an important input
for us, it was a major loss whoever fault it was really. It has also
brought into perspective the fact of long distance warranty in operation.
What would you have done in the same situation? He did not get the expected
communication, as he says.
While we all know how good Bob is with his engines, one has to be guarded
for the unexpected.
Yes, we don't bring all the trouble we go through to this forum, and deal
with them ourselves, this is not something real small. And I'm sure, Bob is
pissed off himself when one of his engine blows.
As an outsider in this, I hope the same won't happen to me. Like the
solders on the battlefield, it is alway the other guy who dies.
Here we all died a little with Dan and Bob.
Zoltan
And I bet, some of you would have driven on with the alternator light on
too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny boy" <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Boston Bob engines - Use caution
>I felt i should have staid away from this one... but i will not!
>
> First, i don't like when you guys bring your problemes to the list, that
> also include vendor bashing. We have so fews good place to buy our stuff
> and
> get some engine, i think all of them are working hard to do so. (i buy a
> lot
> from GoWesty, Van-Cafe, Cip1 and Bus depot and the make some errors... i
> don't report them here!!!!!!!)
>
> I have been working like a dog on Vanagon for now... 2.5 years, full time,
> almost 7 days a week, i have re-seal, semi rebuilt and fully rebuilt over
> 80
> engines, i even installed engine from other company. And one thing that
> you
> all forget, the long block is PART on an "engine", FI and anverything
> around
> is as important. So Bob rebuilt engine, but he has to live with the fact
> that he does't install them most of the time, and of course, he doesn't
> drive the van for "beak-in". Breaking up bearing, pistons and ring is a
> delicate step.
>
> Many of you, and local folks ask me why i sandblast, clean, seal, replace
> every parts around the engine...
> http://www.benplace.com/85westy/taupe51.jpg
> it's simply to make sure that this engine WILL have every chance it need.
> I
> had NO comeback from ANY customers in that time period, but even with all
> the precision and care putting those engine together, i feel lucky...
>
> Believe me, i have seen more "shitty" installation job in the shop that i
> have seen good one.
>
> But i now know YOU, the customer! that always says - that to expensive -
> do
> i really need that - just put the minimum.... well, those cutomers... they
> will go back out of the shop with the engine in the CARGO bay...
>
> I have read all the thread and i have to say that all reply were very
> intelligent and logic.
>
> Ben
> http://www.benplace.com/vw2.htm
>
>
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