Date:         Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:37:37 -0400
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From:         Doug Fitz-Randolph <fitzr@SUSCOM-MAINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Warning! Do not use... (Stainless Exhaust Fasteners)
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Where can you get magic no rust hardened fasteners? Is that your question
TC? I don't know. All I said was I went to the hardware store and
bought SS fasteners. They weren't even metric, they were SAE. It
probably cost me $10-$15 for a whole bag-full of nuts, bolts & washers.
As they were not specially marked, I assume they were the lowest quality
SS available from wherever the Home Depot buys their bolts from in
China. Grade 5 maybe? I've heard that's what they are, but honestly I
do not know.

I've got to say that even if you don't use never-seize and your bolts
and nuts become forever fused, I'd sure prefer snapping off and
replacing nice, shiny, hexagonal fasteners over dicking around all day
trying to extricate a bunch of rounded nubs of rusty steel that used to
be bolts once upon a time. I'm sorry - I hate rust - grrrrrr - it makes
even the most simple tasks painful ordeals. If you've never had the
pleasure of working on old cars in rusty places, you may think you what
I'm talking about, but you don't. Ben H. - je sais que tu comprends! :)

Cheers,
Doug Fitz-Randolph
Freeport, ME

>Date:         Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:30:23 -0800
>Reply-To:     TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
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>From:         TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
>Subject:      Re: Subject: Warning! Do not use... (Stainless Exhaust >Fasteners)
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>>Anyhow, based solely on my personal experience, I'd be one to recommend
>>stainless fasteners for the exhaust. As always, feel free to discount my
>>story and do as you please!
>so err what type of SS did you pick
>a) 304
>b) 316
>c) 410 hardened SS
>d) other ???
>
>I assume 304/316 are about grade 5 & 410 if you can find is ~= grade 8
>hell I pay $5 bolt if you could tell me Titanium bolts would not snap or
>rust
>and where can you get magic no rust hardened fasteners