Date:         Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:56:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Gary McEachern <glmceach@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Gary McEachern <glmceach@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Warning! Do not use... (Stainless Exhaust Fasteners)
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I've very similar results to Doug using "hardware store" SAE SS
hardware on my exhaust systems. It is a breeze to remove after a few
years compared to normal steel hardware. If for some reason they gall
and freeze, they break easily and are not rusted in place.

Gary

Gary McEachern
Reading Ma
87 Wolfy Weekender (suby 2.2)
87 Westy Camper (suby 2.2)

On 1/17/07, Doug Fitz-Randolph <fitzr@suscom-maine.net> wrote:
> Where can you get magic no rust hardened fasteners? Is that your question
> TC? I don't know. All I said was I went to the hardware store and
> bought SS fasteners. They weren't even metric, they were SAE. It
> probably cost me $10-$15 for a whole bag-full of nuts, bolts & washers.
> As they were not specially marked, I assume they were the lowest quality
> SS available from wherever the Home Depot buys their bolts from in
> China. Grade 5 maybe? I've heard that's what they are, but honestly I
> do not know.
>
> I've got to say that even if you don't use never-seize and your bolts
> and nuts become forever fused, I'd sure prefer snapping off and
> replacing nice, shiny, hexagonal fasteners over dicking around all day
> trying to extricate a bunch of rounded nubs of rusty steel that used to
> be bolts once upon a time. I'm sorry - I hate rust - grrrrrr - it makes
> even the most simple tasks painful ordeals. If you've never had the
> pleasure of working on old cars in rusty places, you may think you what
> I'm talking about, but you don't. Ben H. - je sais que tu comprends! :)
>
> Cheers,
> Doug Fitz-Randolph
> Freeport, ME
>
> >Date:         Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:30:23 -0800
> >Reply-To:     TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
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> >From:         TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
> >Subject:      Re: Subject: Warning! Do not use... (Stainless Exhaust >Fasteners)
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>
> >>Anyhow, based solely on my personal experience, I'd be one to recommend
> >>stainless fasteners for the exhaust. As always, feel free to discount my
> >>story and do as you please!
> >so err what type of SS did you pick
> >a) 304
> >b) 316
> >c) 410 hardened SS
> >d) other ???
> >
> >I assume 304/316 are about grade 5 & 410 if you can find is ~= grade 8
> >hell I pay $5 bolt if you could tell me Titanium bolts would not snap or
> >rust
> >and where can you get magic no rust hardened fasteners
>


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Gary McEachern
Reading Ma
87 Wolfy Weekender (suby 2.2)
87 Westy Camper (suby 2.2)