Date:         Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:50:10 -0800
Reply-To:     Courtney Hook <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Courtney Hook <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: [T2] Re: Empi vs. Bugpack merged aftermarket exhaust for 77
              Westy
Comments: To: ron@busdepot.com
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Thanks Ron! That is the one I buy up here at 180 I think, from CIP. Too bad
you're so far away. :-( My last piece of sheetmetal (a rocker panel)  from
you cost me 20 dollars to ship, although the system only said it would be
10? Not bitching, just moaning about the good deals I could get if I lived
closer to civilization. :-)
Courtney

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Bus Depot" <type2@busdepot.com>
To: <type2@type2.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: [T2] Re: Empi vs. Bugpack merged aftermarket exhaust for 77
Westy


>> I've had this one installed since about 1998:
>>
>> http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=071251053EK
>>
>> It has outlasted aftermarket extractor systems by a factor of
>> many. Only problem is that it doesn't support a catalytic
>> converter, but my '79 bus is now beyond the 25-year cutoff
>> for Austin's recently-adopted emissions testing. If I could
>> find a complete exhaust system with a 3-way cat converter,
>> I'd probably buy it, if it was not too godawfully expensive.
>>
>> Here's a description of it from www.BusDepot.com <SNIP>
>
>
>
> That's a great system, and definitely the one to use if you don't need a
> CAT. It's is the stock factory setup for '72-83 Buses and Vanagons outside
> of the U.S., but starting in '75 we in the U.S. got the more convoluted
> crossover-pipe system due to the federal requirement for a CAT. It will
> indeed FAR outlast any of the aftermarket extractory systems. Nothing else
> even remotely comes close to this system in terms of quality for the
> dollar.
>
> It is a direct bolt-on for '72-74 and 79-83. Courtney has a '77, however,
> which takes a triangular rather than trapezoidal flange at the heat
> exchangers. Using this system on a '75-78 requires replacing the '75-78
> heat
> exchangers with '72-74 ones that have trapezoidal output flanges (and
> doing
> a couple of rather minor mods). That said, I still recommend this
> modification. Not only does it make it possible to use the above exhaust
> system (by far the best for the buck), but it also eliminates several
> '75-78
> only components that are no longer available, notably the header pipes and
> j-pipes that go from the head to the heat exchangers. (The 72-74 heat
> exchangers don't require them, as they bolt directly to the heads). The
> mod
> will pay for itself several times over, both by eliminating those NLA
> parts
> and by making it possible to use a cheap yet far superior muffler.
>
> If you don't want to do this mod, then there is the '75-78 extractor
> system,
> which works with the U.S. spec '75-78 heat exchangers. The one I recommend
> is the Pacesetter, which is quite similar to the Ansa version made some
> years ago. It is a one-piece setup that looks much like the stock system
> but
> connects right to heat exchangers (no crossover pipe). In my opinion it is
> far superior to the Taiwanese made Empi in terms of longevity, although
> still no match for the OEM setup linked above. The Pacesetter is what I
> generally ship under the below part number, although on occasion I am
> forced
> to substitute an Empi when the Pacesetters are unavailable.
>
> http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=352000
>
> - Ron Salmon
>  The Bus Depot, Inc.
>  www.busdepot.com
>  (215)  234-VWVW
>
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