Date:         Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:48:45 -0800
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From:         Pensioner <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Alarm system, was Bus story - using a gun???
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For those wishing to review US requirements for concealed weapons carrying
(in car or on person) visit www.packing.org.

With Permits from FL, UT, NV, associated reciprocity agreements with other
states allow you to legally carry a loaded weapon in your vehicle unlocked
in a total of 33 states.  Packing.org has pointers to each state's laws
including 'brandishment'.  The fellow in the garage brandished a shotgun.
There are serious legal ramifications for 'brandishment' in many states.

It's always a good idea to review the firearms regulations for those states
through which you may be transporting a firearm or just print out the
relevant sections from packing.org and keep 'em in the car when heading out
to Colorado for elk.

Transporting into or through Canada is problematic.  Mexico is also
problematic.  Best to not do that.

Mr. Gronski wrote:


Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:15:24 -0500
From:    Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Alarm system, was Bus story - using a gun???

Canadian's with thier "PAL" gun licenses can actually carry (well
TRANSPORT) guns in their vehicles if they are "non restricted" and
unloaded. Generally non-restricted means it is greater than 660mm /
26" in length. So you could carry a rifle or magazine fed shotgun and
carry a loaded magazine but it is illegal once the magazine goes into
the gun.

Canadians can also apply for CCW (Carry Concealed Weapon) permits in
the State of Utah, and once you have Utah you can apply in New
Hampshire. Various reciprocity agreements allow you to carry concealed
(ie: a handgun) in 30+ states. IN addition to your Utah / New
Hampshire CCW to bring a handgun from your home in Canada to the US
you would need a "Restricted PAL" (since handguns are "restricted"
firearms being among other things less than 26" in length), an ATT
(authorization to transport) from your province allowing you to bring
the gun from your home to the border, a "form 6" allowing you to
temporarily import a firearm into the US, and a hunting license as
handgun hunting is allowed in the US (North Dakota and Alaska are very
cheap licenses).

Now actually USING a gun in self defense is an entirely different can
of worms...

Chris