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Date:         Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:53:56 -0800
Reply-To:     Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: speakers for stock enclosures
Comments: To: Mike Miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <C1E2EE6A.381D%mwmiller@cwnet.com>
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Mike Miller's right that steep crossovers can get tricky, but then (as he points out) the acoustic qualities of the inside of a van is pretty grim, so all in all a fellow is unlikely to achieve anything close to great sound. Knowing this, and taking the path of least resistance, I would normally not have bothered modifying the stereo in Mellow Yellow, except for the fact that I'm a bass player so naturally I had to install a 12'' subwoofer and amp in the bench seat.<br> <br> I put in a CD player with pretty extensive subwoofer crossover controls and now I have presets for the sub: one for when the bench seat is loaded with stuff -- like pillows -- and I'm driving, and a second for when the seat is emptier and I'm parked. Works about as good as I would expect considering that when driving, the road and engine noise pretty much makes high resolution sound about as useful as perfume in a manure factory, and when not driving (i.e., camping), I don't bother my neighbors with my idea of good music, so I play it very very softly.<br> <br> I only wish my neighbors would give the same consideration for me when they decide to serenade the entire campground with their dreadful music. <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano KG6RCR

</pre> <br> <br> Mike Miller typed: <blockquote cite="midC1E2EE6A.381D%25mwmiller@cwnet.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Well, you'd have to cross to the 6x9 pretty low. Like 60 Hz or so. Otherwise you'll get a heck of a discontinuity in the lower midrange. The ear is pretty good at direction at those frequencies. So some of the midrange would sound like it's coming from the back and some from the front. Odd sound.

That's assuming your crossover isn't any steeper than 24db per octave, and if you go steeper than that there are severe problems both electrically and acoustically if I understand crossover theory correctly.

This all may be b.s. As vehicle interiors do odd things to sound but I think it's likely enough to be real careful before you spend the money.

IMHO or something like that.

Mike

Anybody want to buy some Fulton Speakers?

On 1/28/07 11:02 PM, "Matt Drew" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:t3vanagon@GMAIL.COM">&lt;t3vanagon@GMAIL.COM&gt;</a> wrote:

</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I've been considering doing the same with my '90 GL, but with a considerable modification.

100W flat amp mounted under the front passenger seat with 2 6x9s installed in the wood panel below the 2nd bench seat.

Hi-end to the "stock" 3.5", low-end mains to the 6x9s.

Great sound without blasting out the neighbors.

I need to do something quickly, as the PO blew the front speakers out and it's really starting to drive me nuts.

Anyone see any potential problems?

Matt

i used pioneer.. 3.5" 2 way.. dremeled the '88 up style speaker </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">grilles off the stock speakers, and used the grilles w/ the pioneers.. looks factory..

chris

</pre> </blockquote> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi - I'd like to upgrade the 4 speakers in my westy but want to keep the original faceplates. Anyone recommend a small but might speaker that will fit in there?

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