Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:07:05 -0500
Reply-To: Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: smog failed 85gl
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my readings are below: yes we do have an idle test, no dyno in NV.
I do think i am failing at idle speed.. I have a strebo muffler, not that it makes a diffrence
in this test, but thought i'd post it along, cat is good also.
Thanks Much,
HC ppm
2500 300 limit 220 reading 255 CO% 1.20 reading 8.63
Idle 774 425 220 1700 reading 9.99
co2 17.90 result 0.2 rpm 2663
16.10 5.6 901
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
>Sent: Jan 30, 2007 8:19 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: smog failed 85gl
>
>I don't know if you have the idle test or the IM240, (dyno), but in general,
>the states emission limits are at least above the upper end of the max
>limits for vehicles of a certain year or range of years. Everything 81 and
>later has controls for mixture,(CO, the O2 sensor, Cat), NOX, ( O2 sensor
>and catalyst) and HC, (Cat, fuel vapor recovery, closed crankcase vent). If
>all is running well, all these number should be close to "0". If you failed,
>you are probably creating 5-10 times the pollution/mile you should be. The
>term is gross polluter and that is what emissions programs are all about.
>Most likely there is a waiver program that if you can't make it pass after
>certain repairs and some dollar amount, you get waived for some time period.
>
>
>As for making it pass by tweaking the AFM, that was really tampering. If the
>O2 sensor is doing its job, the mixture should be spot on by that. If not,
>something is wrong and proper diagnoses are the key. Give us the numbers and
>I will help you out.
>
>Dennis
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>Joseph Fortino
>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:30 AM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: smog failed 85gl
>
>Yup your right i was going to post my numbers and will soon, but last time
>they tweeked my AFM to get it to pass and charged me 80 bucks, sure i
>replaced
>some parts common stuff that goes bad, just getting robbed every year
>because i don't
>drive the newest stuff and its an older car..
>
>bottom line is they will do whatever is needed to keep the older cars off
>the road so you
>have to buy the latest and greatest.. i feel.
>
>Joe
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
>>Sent: Jan 30, 2007 5:03 AM
>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>Subject: Re: smog failed 85gl
>>
>>If you'd post your actual numbers you might get some feedback to help you
>>diagnose and eliminate the problem. Hey, it's happened before.
>>
>>Cya,
>>Robert
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Joseph Fortino" <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:40 AM
>>Subject: smog failed 85gl
>>
>>
>>> Every year same ol same ol, failed smog.. hey my van runs great.. (
>>> really )
>>> I can not wait until this is waved. Looks like i will fork out some cash
>>> to see what might
>>> be effecting this reading.. o2 and yada yada..
>>>
>>> If it does not smoke or drip,, pass it.. hehe do they really want to get
>>> the older carsoff the road
>>> i think so.
>>>
>>> Nevada is every year here :( killin me.. LOL
>>>
>>> Joe
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