Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:08:39 +0000
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From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: Re: Need input on radiator problem
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The engine can run hot without a thermostat. As the thermostat opens to allow coolant to flow from the radiator, the lower disc closes off the bypass that allows coolant to continuously flow throughout the engine. So the flow to the radiator is basically short circuited without the thermostat. If the even is an automatic, it is even worse as the trany oil cooler is a parallel loop with the radiator always taking some of the available flow. Then to make matters worse, the 1.9 cooling system does not flow coolant through the engine. The in and out are both on the rear. The water jacket being filled and convection cool the front cylinders. With the heater valve open, coolant then flow through the right side of the engine. Not left front outlet is there unless someone added it, (easy to do). So it is possible to have a good gauge reading and still be overheating the right side if vapor bound or something.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Alcock
Date: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 10:35 am
Subject: Re: Need input on radiator problem
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Hmmm -- another random thought --- when I had similar problems I
> suspectedthe thermo switch that turns the fan on --- but I've
> never seen a post that
> described any problems with that switch.
>
> Doug
>
>
> On 2/7/07, benoit wrote:
> >
> > Mark, it seem that the fan come ON, but to late??? i'm not
> sure what she
> > mean by that! i just received an e-mail from her, it's hot
> over there
> > (95F), i know that, but still (i have driven westy in temp
> well over
> > 104F)... if the rad is hot, both ways (for that she need to
> check the
> > hose comming IN and OUT), she as a engine/pump probleme, she
> just told
> > me that the van is still running hot without the thermostat!
> >
> > Now, it's her imput, is it right??? I need more input from
> her.. she is
> > working hard to give me input.. i have great respect for that
> lady...>
> > Thanks guys
> > Ben
> >
> > Mark Drillock wrote:
> >
> > > So, does she hear the fan working or not? I have driven through
> > > mainland Mexico in a Westy and some of those warm West coast
> mountains> > had my fan running for 20 minutes at a time. I had
> a new radiator.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > benoit wrote:
> > >
> > >> Come on Mark, your better than that!!!! hey hey.... "more
> than the
> > >> radiator", ok what my friend!!!!
> > >>
> > >> Ben
> > >>
> > >> Mark Drillock wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Is the radiator fan coming on? That is critical on those
> long slower
> > >>> climbs. I suspect that more than the radiator.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mark
> > >>>
> > >>> Benny boy wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Guys, yea, i need your input!
> > >>>> ..........
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Here is why i'm asking: i did a top-end and others small
> stuff for a
> > >>>> very
> > >>>> nice 62yo lady a few month ago, now, she is stranded with
> > over-heating
> > >>>> problem deep into Mexico (near Acapulco), most coolant
> componants> were
> > >>>> replace, heads/pistons are new, water pump, thermostat
> and many other
> > >>>> coolant related parts were replaced (not to say all).
> Since that
> > >>>> top-end,
> > >>>> she did at least 5000 miles without any problem. She just
> call me
> > >>>> from there
> > >>>> telling my some small town mechanic was removing the
> thermostat as we
> > >>>> where
> > >>>> on the phone, i went bazoukkk... i told her how to test the
> > >>>> thermostat wile
> > >>>> there and explain to her how to flush the rad to see if
> it was
> > >>>> flowing.
> > >>>> (it's a 1.9 by the way)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The engine/coolant don't overheat at low speed, only on
> big hills
> > wile
> > >>>> climbing, the engine sound and run fine all the time with
> good power,
> > >>>> even
> > >>>> when it's over-heating??? ........................
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.dougalcock.com
>
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