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Date:         Fri, 2 Feb 2007 16:47:11 -0800
Reply-To:     Courtney Hook <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Courtney Hook <courtneyhook@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: What's in YOUR Git Box/Bug-out Bag
Comments: To: Geza Polony <gezapolony@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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Geza, you sound like a survivalist. :-) Nothing wrong with that, I keep myself prepared for the worst. I have a woodstove, lots of rice and flour and sugar and other sundries to last me awhile. The deer here on the island are so tame you can grab one if you want venison not to mention the salmon. Get in touch with your local First Nations people and see how they lived a rich lifestyle (at least here on the West Coast) I have a woodstove and a forest all around me. Toughest time would be the first year, waiting for vegetables to grow. Water is all around us. I have 200 gallons of water treated right now, it's called a hottub. Beggars can't be choosy when you want a drink, although 2oo yds from my house is a stream. My biggest worry is my fellow man, people get funny when they are trying to feed THEIR kids, and if you have something and they need it, well - - - - that's why I have lots of other things around the house too. None of which would be good for the thieves. Infrastructure is what you make it. Kerosene, bear fat, firewood, your basics mean we'd step back 150 years, but last time I checked, Canada and the US were pioneered by people with often nothing but a good axe, a flintlock, and some seeds. P-mail if you like to discuss this stuff, I certainly do. Regards, Courtney

----- Original Message ----- From: "Geza Polony" <gezapolony@SBCGLOBAL.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: Re: What's in YOUR Git Box/Bug-out Bag

> I've thought about this issue for some time, both regarding the V and our > own little cabin in the woods. My conclusion is that it's really an > illusion > to think you could survive for long given a total loss of infrastructure, > with or without the cabinets in the V packed up tight. Even with a > moderate > loss of infrastructure, as in Cuba (thank you, Hon. Sen. Helms) there's a > huge increase in death rate. With a larger damage to infrastructure, as in > Somalia in the early 90's or in Iraq right now, the death rate is > astronomical. > > Consider the ramifications of the mere loss of electricity in North > America--with no other damage to infrastructure than that. No bombing, no > earthquakes, no floods, no plagues. Just the loss of electricity. Within a > few weeks there is no food supply, no medical care, no law enforcement, no > transportation (how far will your V go on one full tank of gas?), no > drinking water--and on and on. We are dependent, like it or not. > > > I'm old enough to vaguely recall those 16mm films they showed in > classrooms > in the 1950's. After a nuclear attack, the first thing you were supposed > to > do, after you got your little head unstuck from the desk you were under, > was > take a hot shower to wash off the radiation. Thank you for that advice, > Uncle Sam. And where would the nearest shower be? > > > That said, it can't hurt to keep the water tank full and 10 lbs of rice in > the cabinet. > > > And plenty of soap in case someone drops a nuke on ya.


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