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Date:         Mon, 5 Feb 2007 04:45:22 -0500
Reply-To:     Bill Glenn <idahobill@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bill Glenn <idahobill@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Rubber conditioners & lubricants

Two recent threads, one about lubricating window seals, and another about lubricating some gas tank grommets, included postings recommending the use of Vaseline, WD-40, and silicon (sic; should have been silicone) as possible rubber lubricants. Additionally, on eBay is a listing for Vanagon window seals "reconditioned" with Vaseline. The rubber on our vans has it tough enough defending itself against ozone, ultra-violet light, etc., without deliberately subjecting it to petroleum distillates, which in general are not friendly to rubber. That leaves out Vaseline and WD-40, and in using a silicone spray, one would want to be aware of the make-up of the carrier. Better to use a product specifically formulated for use on rubber, as some have suggested.

If you don't have immediate access to such a product, I seem to recall that glycerin, available in small bottles at any drug store, was sometimes recommeded as a rubber conditioner--someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this. Glycerin is slippery enough to serve as a lubricant for the rubber in the situations being discussed. Another lubricant that can be useful on rubber, though perhaps not in these circumstances, is talc. For example, a door seal into which talc has been rubbed, is less likely to freeze to or otherwise stick to the door frame. If you only need a small amount, rub a piece of welders chalk (soapstone/talc) against a piece of sandpaper.

The posting that suggested the use of KY jelly was spot on, especially since it's rubber friendly :) and is water soluble; if it starts to dry up before you get your parts assembled just re-wet it. (Then again, you knew that).

On the subject of KY, I'll tell you a true story. Years ago I needed to produce some decorative, architectural plaster moldings. I carved the positive images, applied the rubber mold material, successfully removed the molds, and was ready to cast the plaster in the molds. However, I needed a mold release material, to promote the easy removal of the hardened plaster from the rubber molds, since I needed to make multiple castings. Being hundreds of miles from even a third-tier industrial city, I could not find mold release. I thought to use glycerin, but only a small quantity was available at the local drug store. I next thought that perhaps KY jelly would work; being water soluble, it could be somewhat diluted with water, it could then be brushed on the rubber moulds, it would not contaminate either the molds or the completed plaster castings, and again, being water soluble, any residue could be washed off the plaster castings. A bit of a stir was occasioned when I asked the druggist for every tube of KY that he had, which was about twenty-five tubes, and I told him to be sure he re- ordered in case I needed more. I heard later that there had been no small amount of humorous conjecture in the store as to the use to which such a quantity of KY was being put. However, that was nothing compared to what followed. Imagine walking onto the construction site later that morning with a box full of KY jelly under my arm, and attempting to explain what it was for. Well, the wisecracks that followed, both clever and crude, mostly at my expense, were merciless and non-stop. I still occasionally bump into someone who (thanks a lot!) remembers "Billy the KY Kid", a moniker it took some time to shake off. The stuff worked, the job got done, the customer was happy, and all concerned had a funny story to add to their personal archives. Isn't life grand?


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