Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:45:46 -0600
Reply-To: Jim Felder <felder@KNOLOGY.NET>
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From: Jim Felder <felder@KNOLOGY.NET>
Subject: Re: plumbing
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On Feb 5, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Tom Buese wrote:
>
> On Feb 5, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Jim Felder wrote:
>
>> I can't imagine anywhere in the world that's not on your on private
>> property where you would be welcome to dump greywater these days.
>
> One person's biodegradable soap & very little grease/waste, etc.
> greywater is not the same as someone's very greasy, regular dish
> soap, lots of scraps, etc. greywater?
Maybe, but I still can't think of anywhere it's allowable anymore. I
backpack, and it's a given that the washup water is going on the
floor of some national forest. They just ask you to keep it away from
streams and be sensible. But when it comes to camping on a numbered
campsite in any campground I know of, I can tell you that if they
catch you they are going to make an exception for using biodegradable
soap. My reference to private property was meant to say that you
might could get away with dumping greywater in your own yard, but I
doubt that is allowable except in the most rural areas, where farm
animals drop much worse.
>
>>
>>
>> I've tried a variety of things and the best and most convenient, at
>> least for me, is the blue 10-gallon poly greywater/blackwater tanks
>> from the RV store. They have wheels which help you accurately aim for
>> the drain when you have to empty it. I use a short piece of clear
>> tubing between two brass garden hose fittings to go from the outlet
>> to the tank. Use clear tubing so you can troubleshoot plumbing
>> problems quickly.
>
> Sounds great! Do volks really develop that much greywater in their
> campspots? I am pushing it if I 1/2 fill a 2-3 gallon dish pan,
> etc. Now, I can see wanting something big for an extended stay in
> 1 spot, but for a weekend trip, how much greywater does the average
> westy camper make?
That probably depends on how you eat and how many you are feeding. If
you're eating trail mix and Dinty Moore Beef Stew, you will use a
couple of pints of water. You probably only need a trash bag. But if
you cook, like we do, we might use three to five gallons over two or
three days with two adults and two kids. Sometimes more. Three or
four gallons is a LOT if you see it on the ground. I mean, we make
chili, omelets, pancakes, all kind of stuff that needs washing up. We
also use the camper as a base camp in downtown areas, a day in St.
Augustine comes to mind. A splattering out of the bottom of a camper
with the top popped in a municipal parking lot would probably elicit
a call to the cops by at least one of your horrified neighbors!
Jim
>
> IMNTK,
>
> Tom B.-no blackwater for moi
>>
>> There are some very nice, permanently-mounted (and expensive)
>> solutions from Germany that you see on the net from time to time, but
>> you probably need to move the propane tank on a westy to under the
>> sliding door to be able to use these tanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Tom Buese wrote:
>>
>>>> .........
>>>> where
>>>> does the grey water go? On my parts van the drain is just sticking
>>>> out
>>>> the bottom, which I doubt most campgrounds would be too happy
>>>> about.
>>>
>>> Yes, that is the correct location. It has a threaded end that you
>>> can connect a garden hose to & run to a remote location or sewer if
>>> in a campground that has a sewer near where you are parked.
>>>
>>>> Is there supposed to bea holding tank below?
>>>
>>> Option by current owner! There are many different versions of this,
>>> including letting it run on the ground, a pan or bucket, or actual
>>> greywater tanks installed by the owner. YMMV.
>>>
>>> Tom B.-use a hose only used for this reason or a plastic dishpan
>>> depending on where I am camping, type of greywater.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nathaniel
>>>
>
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