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Date:         Fri, 9 Feb 2007 01:00:29 -0600
Reply-To:     Allen Hill <route66rider@KNOLOGY.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Allen Hill <route66rider@KNOLOGY.NET>
Subject:      Re: Brake Booster question
Comments: To: Troy <colorworks@GCI.NET>
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My first thought on this is that I would suspect that the hole is supposed to be there. However if in fact you hear a noise from it, I would also suspect that you have a hole in the diaphragm in the booster. A quick check would be what side of the booster is the main hose that leads to the motor (where the vacuum sources from)? If it is as I suspect on the other side of the case, the hole should be there and it (the hole) would be only a vent.

Route 66 Rider! Ramon Hill Live Long and Be Free ===================================================

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Troy Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:30 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Brake Booster question

I took a closer look at the booster tonight, and discovered a small, maybe 1/16 of an inch diameter hole at the bottom of the master cylinder flange. Almost looks like a vent hole. Can someone please confirm whether this hole should be there. It's about dead center on the bottom part of the flange of the master cylinder (where it mounts to the booster) viewed from the driver seat with the instrument panel removed. If I put my finger over that hole, the hissing sound I described stops. Almost seems like it's supposed to be there, being that it's perfectly round, dead center, etc. again, I can easily take some JB Weld and plug it up, but not if it is suppose to be there!

Troy 89 Vanagon (money monster)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Wilford" <kenwilfy@comcast.net> To: "'Troy'" <colorworks@gci.net>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: RE: Brake Booster question

The test for the booster is to pump up the brake pedal until it is hard and then start the van. The pedal should drop a little. However you could still have a leak. You could pull the vacuum line on the booster and pressurize it with air, then use the soapy water technique to find a leak. That sounds complicated but is much easier than replacing the booster which requires pulling the dash along with some finger gymnastics to get at the bolts in the back. Also a new booster is pricey. They list for $414 at the dealer. I have them listed on my site for $325 but I could probably do better on that price for a list member if you found you needed one. It is not normal for you to hear a hissing sound when you press on the brake pedal. And the brakes should feel good on your van (firm, high pedal) or something is either leaking or out of adjustment.

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-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Troy Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:59 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Brake Booster question

Hi there:

Have a question about a possible vacuum leak from the brake booster. When I depress the brake pedal I hear a very low-level hissing sound, coming from what sounds like the brake booster. I have not owned my van for a long time, so not sure if the sound is normal for the vans or if I have a possible vacuum leak. It has pretty much been there since I purchased the van. Braking power is okay, not great, but for what I am told the brakes on these vans are not the best in the world anyway. I just bleed the lines this past weekend, and the hissing sound is definitely not as loud/strong. So, is this a problem or just normal behavior for the van? FWIW, if I pump up the brakes and then start the van, there is just a small release of pressure, but it does hold. I'm guessing there is a small vacuum leak, but I just don't know. Suggestions?

Troy


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