Date:         Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:40:43 -0800
Reply-To:     Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: fridge problems-LEAST IMPACT TO THE EARTH
In-Reply-To:  <8C91DC88641275D-2B0-D5@WEBMAIL-MA08.sysops.aol.com>
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Lead -acid batteries generate oxygen and hydrogen
gas .
In so-called global warming , the culprit is
carbon dioxide.
So it does make you wonder of carbonated
beverages are a major contributor of greenhouse
gasses.

Our Vanagon Westfalia Dometic fridge is a gas
absorption design, tha uses hydrogen and ammonia
gas.

Scientists believe the early earth atmosphere was
hydrogen -rich and that it mainly consisted of
hydrogen, ammonia, helium, and oxygen .

Why of course, the world then was once a
refrigerator. The ice age!

So I suppose we need to pump more hydrogen and
ammonia into the atmosphere to reverse global
warming.

Use those batteries and fridges and save the
planet!!
BTW, gel batteries are more prone to freezing
than lead -acid.


Robert

1982 Westfalia







--- David Clarkson <dvdclarksn@AOL.COM> wrote:

> We should also consider the impact of the
> recycling cost of a lead acid battery, that is
> assuming the battery is eventually recycled.
> Aren't most of the greenhouse gases that are
> contributing to global warming (careful-don't
> start a thread here) coming from the intestinal
> gases/byproducts of bovine animals? If your
> drinking beer aren't you also contributing to
> these gases as well. There's no perfect
> solution except possibly a solar powered gel
> cell. Let's all have a cold one and think about
> it.
>
> David Clarkson (amateur zymergist)
> 90 Westy (always with cold beer)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: abagdan@SHAW.CA
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Sent: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: fridge problems
>
>
> >
> > I still don't understand why anyone would
> want to waste unmeasurable
> > propane
> > when driving, instead of using battery power
> that is not used otherwise.
> > It's inefficient, too, adds to your
> greenhouse gas emissions instead of
> > using a power source your van is creating
> anyway.
> >
>
> Not true.
>
> It is cheaper and greener to run the fridge on
> propane than on gasoline.
>
> If the fridge is on battery power when driving,
> the alternator must work
> harder to supply the power, thus burning more
> gasoline. (Same idea as when
> you have the air conditioner on).
>
> Cheers
>
> Alfred
> 85 Westy
>
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