Date:         Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:21:53 -0800
Reply-To:     Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: OFF TOPIC! Re: XM and Sirius announce merger
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Speaking of the moderator, why don't you let him do his job? If he has a
problem with this thread he'll address it.
As was pointed out, many of us have these devices, many specifically for our
vans and the outcome of this issue is a relevant concern. Futhermore, the
subject is well within topic both by rule and long-standing convention.
If you fancy yourself some kind of strict constuctionist perhaps you should
start a 'tech only' vanagon group and moderate it the way you like. FYI,
it's been done a few times before and it hasn't worked- nobody went for it.
The people on this list generally take the time to set it up on there end in
the way that suits them- they establish filters, block the senders they
don't care for and use the 'delete' button. The fact that we rarely ever get
these kinds of rants means that for the list population in general we have
established a kind of equilibrium with which the majority can live and which
they accept.
For example, in Outlook Express you can kill all messages in a thread, as
long as the subject line doesn't change, with two clicks. You have to take
two minutes to set it up to do it. Then if you see a thread you don't care
to follow you can ignore it and that's it. I'd bet other common email progs
have comparable functions.
I suggest you take care of your issues on your end instead of telling the
almost one thousand of the rest of us how we should do it your way.

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan W." <gutlesswonder@COMCAST.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC! Re: XM and Sirius announce merger


Holly crap, all I was asking is that adults police themselves and keep a
"vanagon mailing list" related to vanagons, adherent to the rules set forth
by the moderator. I don't read this list to monitor the daily goings-on in
the world, i.e.: Bill gates, monopolies, buy-outs and such. Why is it
unreasonable of me to not want to sift through such posts to share actual
vanagon information with others? Two factions? Maybe the "faction" of this
group that wants to converse about news issues and such and can't at least
wait until Fri. or tag their post as off topic should start there own group
and moderate the way they like.


----- Original Message -----
  From: Jeff Lincoln
  To: Dan W.
  Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC! Re: XM and Sirius announce merger


  Dan,

  I see your point and I'm not looking to argue. I think that differen't
people are on this list for different reasons. It appears there are two
factions here - those who want posts only re: mechanical, parts, etc. type
posts and then there are those who use this list for those reasons as well
as an online community of sorts.

  I certainly respect your point of view. Keeping that in mind though I have
to say that I think others, myself included, feel just as strongly about
posts others might feel are off topic because those posts are useful too.
Sometimes more useful than posts that you might feel more appropriate.

  I'm not saying I am right but that is my point of view on the topic.

  --
  Thanks,

  Jeff
  90' Carat (It's Blue, It's Beautiful, It needs a lot of work)
  86' (Soon to be donating organs to the 90')
  85' GL (sidelined but to be resurrected in the near future)