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Date:         Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:22:52 -0500
Reply-To:     mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         mordo <helmut.blong@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Bars leaks
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.58.0702161331340.19045@kenneke.com>
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I wonder what special properties ginger root has. There are, I would think, many other products that would be less costly than ginger root.

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: jon <jon@kenneke.com> Date: Feb 16, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Bars leaks To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com

'Twas me that looked up the MSDS. It is here:

http://www.barsproducts.com/MSDS.cfm

For the radiator stuff, the main ingredients are:

Turmeric 13-15% Soda Ash 5-7 Almond Nut Shell 8-10 Ginger Rhizomes(!) 69-72

You could almost whip this up in your kitchen. I never thought to smell it, but I'd expect it to have a pleasing ginger scent. ;)

This is for their "Golden Seal", which I think works best. Their other radiator products are pepper and/or aluminum powder with some other stuff.

Jon

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, David Clarkson wrote:

> Okay, I'll confess. I had some slight seepage from my radiator and didn't have the $200.00 to replace the radiator and $48.00 for factory coolant at the time. I decided to try Bars leaks based on what I had seen/heard from the list. I also am one who frowns upon a chemical solution to correct a physical problem and have been hesitant to use anything like this as a fix. I added two containers ($14.00 and found it at my local Kroger's mega grocery store) and followed the directions. 1000 miles later I have had no more seepage and no difference in the operating temperature. Someone on the list recently went to the website and found that the ingredients are all organic (I checked the website and couldn't find this info-MSDS maybe) and that the primary ingredient was some derivative from apricots I think. I used the heavy duty radiator stop leak and followed all of the instructions and 10 miles, 30 minutes later the leak seems to have sealed. I have replaced my rear heater core and I suspect that the front heater core will need to be replaced very soon. Again this is an expense that's not in the budget at the moment and a very labor intensive job. This a temporary fix and I hope to replace the radiator and then the front heater core (along with replacing the blower motor , renewing the foam on the vents/doors and running new wiring for the headlight upgrade) in the next month or so before warm weather gets here. Kudos to VW for putting a durable radiator and heater cores in their vans that have lasted me over 230K with the proper coolant and coolant replacement intervals. I think that a couple of containers are worth keeping in your van for emergencies to get you home. It would not be an acceptable substitute for leaking hoses or clamps or a permanent fix for any rusted or corroded metal. > > David Clarkson > 90 Westy (236k) > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. >

-- mordo 1990 Carat


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