Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:41:59 +0000
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From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
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Jim,
This must be a fairly new product and Allison's cooperation is also some what recent. As a Mobil 1 user, I even called them when my tranny was due for its first service. Thanks for the info.
Dennis.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Akiba
Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:54 pm
Subject: RE: Oil is Killing our Cars?
To: dhaynes@optonline.net, vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Also from Mobil's website
>
> "Mobil Delvac Synthetic ATF is recommended for use in modern high
> performance trucks, buses, utility vehicles, haulers, vans and other
> equipment requiring Allison TES-295, Allison C-4 or Voith performance
> levels."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Haynes [mailto:dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET]
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:47 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
>
> So, Does anyone know of an ATF that is labeled for the TES-295
> specification?
>
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeffrey Schwaia
> Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 1:39 pm
> Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
> > No need to get all "FTC" about this... the warranty actually states:
> >
> > AllisonR will only cover repairs in which the transmission had
> been
> > operated with TranSyndR or an equivalent fluid which meets the
> TES-295
> > specification.
> > Sorry... no free fluid for you.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List
> [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
> > Of Mike S
> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:05 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
> >
> >
> > At 11:01 AM 2/23/2007, Dennis Haynes wrote...
> > >Talk about Castrol marketing, They sell a tranny fluid called
> > >TransSynd. They have some how partnered with Allison so that
> this is
> > >the only fluid approved in their transmissions if you want
> the
> > >warranty. Amsoil is the only company challenging this and
> offering a
> > >fluid they claim is equal and they will back it up in case of
> a fluid
> > >related failure. It is almost the same price so I stick with
> the
> > >TranSynd. I hate having my arm twisted though.
> >
> > That's fine, if they provide free fluid during the warranty
> period.
> > Otherwise, the Magnuson-Moss warranty act kicks in and they
> must get a
> > waiver from the FTC. You can search the Federal Register at
> > http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/search.html I did a quick search
> for
> > 'allison AND "federal trade commission"' for the years 2000-
> 2007 and
> > got no hits. Looks like you get free fluid!
> >
> > "No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written
> or
> > implied warranty of such product on the consumer's using, in
> > connection with such product, any article or service (other
> than
> > article or service provided without charge under the terms of
> the
> > warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate
> name;
> > except that the prohibition of this subsection may be waived
> by the
> > Commission if-
> > (1) the warrantor satisfies the Commission that the warranted
> product
> > will function properly only if the article or service so
> identified is
> > used in connection with the warranted product, and
> > (2) the Commission finds that such a waiver is in the public
> interest.>
> > The Commission shall identify in the Federal Register, and
> permit
> > public comment on, all applications for waiver of the
> prohibition of
> > this subsection, and shall publish in the Federal Register its
> > disposition of any such application, including the reasons
> therefor."
> > - 15CFR2302(c)
> >
>
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