Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:26:08 -0500
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From: David Clarkson <dvdclarksn@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: problem with front radiator hoses coming loose from plastic
pipes
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Thanks to all that responded concerning my situation. I must have looked at the 83.5-85 cooling system diagram in the Bentley. The other front pipe did not have the steel insert. Other suggestions were to fabricate another insert if mine was unusable or missing, use the self tightening clamps and installation tool and the Gowesty kit that is not subject to corrosion. Thanks to all.
David
90 Westy (236k)
-----Original Message-----
From: donalds1@VERIZON.NET
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: problem with front radiator hoses coming loose from plastic pipes
In my last adventure with my shop van I found the steel insert sliding out
from the plastic pipe. I took out a good thick piece of flat steel and my
mufler gun with the hammer attachment and reinstalled the insert. The next
step is to drill and install a large pop rivit to hold the insert in place
worked for me
Bob Donalds
Boston engine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Walters" <sam.cooks@VERIZON.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: problem with front radiator hoses coming loose from plastic
pipes
> David,
>
> the "hack mechanic" that put the metal insert in the plastic pipe was VW
> or whomever made the pipe for them
>
> it was designed that way
>
> the metal piece was to prevent the pipe from cracking under the pressure
> of the clamps and to form the bead that helped keep the rubber hose on
> the pipe
>
> over time they do come loose and this is a problem with those pipes
>
> lots and lots about this in the archives over the years
>
> so you are really playing with fire by running without the metal insert
>
> I don't have anything saved on my hard drive about fixing the metal
> inserts so that they stay in place though there have been suggestions
> about this in the past - I just never had the problem.
>
> However, a quick search for posts containing the header "coolant pipes"
> and written since January 05 turned up lots of hits in about 20 seconds
> and a thread that started with this post.
>
> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0511C&L=vanagon&P=R10973
>
> looks like it discusses the problem and solutions. Moving back in time
> would reveal dozens of other threads about this problem and possible
> solutions.
>
> You need to take care of the weakened coolant pipe you created by
> removing the metal insert.
>
> Sam
>
> --
> Sam Walters
>
> Baltimore, MD
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