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Date:         Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:47:07 -0700
Reply-To:     Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: going to Everybus? Concerned about global warming?
In-Reply-To:  <c803c1a70703132225g10ecada2q9ad834d18246c1a@mail.gmail.com>
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Jeff Lincoln wrote:

"50 years ago smoking wasn't a health risk, but now we know it is."

I have a 1952 Life Magazine with an article about how doctors were claiming cigarettes were the cause of cancer.

As far as global warming goes this science is exactly why I am subscribed to the Vanagon list.

This is where all Vanagon owners come to hear about the political football known as Global Warming.

It's a political activist movement, a huge industry, and those of us who dissent are heretics.

That about sums it up. (what I gleaned from the BBC video)

SO we no longer come to the Vanagon list to talk about boring Vanagons, but promote our political views under the guise of enviromental concern.

Of course the rule abiding members must hold their tongues as the rest of us are held hostage to someones political views, because we subscribed to this list and now , well, we can just ignore it all can't we? ANd delete. ANd not fan the flames of global warming Vanagon list style?

Or complain, as I feel like doing sometimes just because way too often I see off-topic subject heading all too often. ANd tires! I think tires bother me the most because I once had a job unloading semi-trucks full of them.

And of course we have no idea what affect this has on newbies who thought this was a forum about Vanagons in all of the many forms.

Soon after such flame wars the "please unsubscribe me" emails come in.

We can only control our topics,not the universe, the earth, or the climate.

Flame suits are appropiate attire for those who can't take the heat of global warming. I think I'll turn on the air conditioning. We have taken the football and we have run with it. Time to be done with it.

I rest my face.

Robert

1982 Westfalia

--- Jeff Lincoln <magikvw@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Look, I'm the last person that needs to be > fueling a fire like this on this > list. However, no matter who you believe, what > side you lean to, or what > opinion you hold it boils down to this - > regardless of if you think we are > causing, better yet accelerating, global > warming or not, it only makes sense > that cleaner living is better living. You can't > with any reasonable > conscience say that all the crap we spew into > the air globally has no effect > on our environment - our Vanagons included (for > content). I firmly believe > that we can't "kill" the earth - but we can > kill our ability to live on it. > 50 years ago smoking wasn't a health risk, but > now we know it is. > Introducing a foreign substance into your body > (the earth's atmosphere) must > have some effect. There is money and political > power to be had on either > side of this coin - I'd rather err on the side > of caution. > > On 3/13/07, Jim Felder <felder@knology.net> > wrote: > > > > On Mar 13, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Kenneth Lewis > wrote: > > > > > Here's a good video on global warming: > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay? > > > > docid=-4520665474899458831&q=global+warming+bbc > > > > > > You can watch it while your Vanagon is > idling. > > > > This sort of thing might be best listened to > while turning your > > vanagon's wheels to the far right. > > > > Enjoy the circles! > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Joy Hecht" <hecht.joy@GMAIL.COM> > > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:56 PM > > > Subject: [VANAGON] going to Everybus? > Concerned about global warming? > > > > > > > > > On April 14 events are planned all over the > US to demonstrate > > > support for > > > effective Congressional action to reduce US > greenhouse gas > > > emissions and > > > address the global warming problem. > Including a couple of > > > different events > > > in Greensboro, NC. > > > > > > Would anyone be interested in organizing a > caravan from Everybus to > > > go to > > > one of these events and show our support? > I've found info about two > > > Greensboro events on the web. One is being > organized by Deep > > > Roots, a coop > > > market in the town, apparently to be held > at a local library. If > > > there's > > > interest from enough people to get a > respectable caravan going, > > > I'll contact > > > them and see whether maybe folks on their > end want to join us, or > > > meet us > > > somewhere. The web indicated that their > library events are at > > > around 3:30 > > > that Saturday afternoon, so that's about > when we might do something. > > > > > > Please let me know! And if you're on other > lists that might > > > include lots of > > > folks going to Every Bus (does FMBC have a > listserv?), please do > > > pass this > > > on, as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joy > > > > > > > > > > **************************************************************** > > > Joy Hecht > > > now living in a real house in northern > Virginia > > > and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon > > > now living in the driveway and resting > after two and a half years > > > lugging Joy and her stuff around... > > > > > > For musings about life traveling in the van > or living in one place: > > > http://www.joyhecht.net > > > > > > > **************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > -- > Thanks, > > Jeff > 90' Carat (It's Blue, It's Beautiful, It's > naked inside - IT'S ALIVE!) > 86' (We call this one Parts) > 85' GL (Sidelined and feeling neglected) >

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