Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:07:31 -0800
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Silicone, silcone/latex caulking question (Has VC. Honest!)
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Way better, especially on non-porous surfaces like the side of your van.
On 3/27/07, neil <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think the point made by Jake was that polyurethane sealant is better
> than silicone.
>
> I had used silicone way before (last spring) this particular thread,
> to seal my inlets.
>
> He had suggested to me that using polyurethane sealant to seal custom
> parts I made/installed in my fresh air/heater housing, was better
> than silicone or silicon/latex blend.
>
> Just to be clear..... :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neil.
>
> On 3/27/07, Shawn Wright <vwdiesels@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'll see if I can get some more real sillycone then... :-)
> >
> > I always seem to have at least 3 dried up, mostly full tubes of various
> caulks
> > when I need to do this kind of thing... :-/
> >
> > On 27 Mar 2007 at 21:10, neil <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > > oops.
> > >
> > > I didn't learn anything today!
> > >
> > > (Of course I DID use 100% silicone for water/power inlets...... but
> > > this was when I first got the van..... and before I had done much
> > > reading on this list!)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/27/07, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > See above.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Its worth the trip.
> > > >
> > > > On 3/27/07, Shawn Wright <vwdiesels@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Speaking of sealants (I couldn't resist - I saw this thread just
> as I
> > > > > grabbed a
> > > > > tube of clear latex while looking for 100% silicone in the
> basement)....
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to reseal my water/power inlets, along with the silicone
> which
> > > > > seals
> > > > > along the floor at the sliding door in my Westy. Should I risk
> using DAP
> > > > > clear latex interior/exterior? Anyone tried this? I haven't been
> impressed
> > > > > with how much latex caulk shrinks. I'm out of silicone - just
> trying to save
> > > > > another trip to the store...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 27 Mar 2007 at 15:58, neil <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks yes I know. And I do tend to ask first. So much so, that.
> I feel
> > > > > like
> > > > > > I've been abusing this list posting so much lately!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I assumed re: sealant type..... (Yes, yes, I know).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So much thinking, fabbing of parts and understanding how things
> will
> > > > > work,
> > > > > > that type of sealant slipped my mind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .......mind? what mind?......never mind.... ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/27/07, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are allowed to ask beforehand, you know. :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/27/07, neil <musomuso@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Jake.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ah ok. Thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yah used what was lying around partly because it was doing
> just
> > > > > that,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- ;^)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but mostly because i have also screwed these pieces in
> place.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mind you I just bench tested with new pieces installed
> (video coming
> > > > > > > > soon!) to see if air would flow as intended and it does
> (this hinges
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > install of fresh air ram flap. No pun intended) but when
> it's
> > > > > running on the
> > > > > > > > workbench, I can certainly see how crucial properly sealing
> the
> > > > > appropriate
> > > > > > > > parts is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hopefully these parts won't see high temps as its' only
> recirculated
> > > > > > > > cabin air that will pass by. The heater side doesn't have
> any
> > > > > sealant.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for info Jake, I may redo the sealant.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 3/27/07, Jake de Villiers < crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, it won't release any fumes, bit it might relinquish
> its hold
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > the parts you wanted sealed. Its not really designed for
> any
> > > > > serious
> > > > > > > > > heat cycling.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You would have been better served to use Polyurethane
> > > > > sealant. Comes in a
> > > > > > > > > caulking tube, in several decorator colours and is
> reliably
> > > > > permanent. Its
> > > > > > > > > what we use to fasten windows into buildings large and
> small and
> > > > > is more
> > > > > > > > > elastic than other types.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 3/27/07, neil < musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In working on fresh air/heater box, I have used "Mono
> Ultra
> > > > > Bath&
> > > > > > > > > > Kitchen"
> > > > > > > > > > caulking to seal parts I made. One ex. of what I mean:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil/iWeb/Site%205/HeaterCoreSide.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It's not 100% silicone, but may be a silicone/latex
> blend.
> > > > > Packaging
> > > > > > > > > > doesn't specify. I've tried searching web but can't find
> info I
> > > > > need.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > My concern:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > even when cured, will heat (from hot air in box) release
> > > > > unwanted
> > > > > > > > > > fumes from
> > > > > > > > > > silicone or silicone mix caulking?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I know that when uncured/curing, 100% silicone caulking
> does
> > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > fumes.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Crazy question, but then I'm doing some crazy mods!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any input from home reno/contractor experts!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jake
> > > > > > > > > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > > > > > > > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > > > > > > > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jake
> > > > > > > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > > > > > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > > > > > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Shawn Wright
> > > > > http://members.shaw.ca/vwdiesels
> > > > > '88 Westy 1.6TD 5 speed
> > > > > '85 Jetta Diesel 1.6NA
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jake
> > > > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.
> > >
> > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> >
> >
> > Shawn Wright
> > http://members.shaw.ca/vwdiesels
> > '88 Westy 1.6TD 5 speed
> > '85 Jetta Diesel 1.6NA
> >
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.
>
> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
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