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Date:         Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:39:24 -0400
Reply-To:     pdooley <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         pdooley <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
Subject:      Re: Repair bill reality check?
Comments: To: Dave Vickery <davevickery@HOTMAIL.COM>
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For anyone to say rubber is "rubber" and doesn't make a difference is totally ignorant. Rubber is a material just like steel or glass, and material quality varies from manufacture to manufacture.

I have installed new rubber strut bearings made in India and watched them fail is less than 3 months. I have seen the rubber boots on Chinese tie rods and ball joints crack and leak grease in less than a year. Heck, just today people on the list are talking about "rubber" NAPA hoses failing in 2 years. That pretty much proves "rubber" is not just "rubber". The fact that the gentleman was the owner/operator just gives me less faith in the average repair shop.

Trust me, there is a lot of junk out there. Take the advice of others and buy from a list vendor.

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Vickery Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:39 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Repair bill reality check?

I brought my syncro in for alignment to a new place (First place a VW dealer couldn't get it right). This guys seems trustworthy from a gut reaction. He is an owner/operator and focuses on 4wd rigs. He said there are some issues before it can be alignined. About 150K on this Arizona van, probably all original stuff up there but van is in great condition overall.

"Left and right lower ball joints. Left worse than right, but right not far behind" $208/pr plus labor "Upper strut bushings & steering rack bushings, $110 plus labor" I did see that those look like dry rotted tires. he said they are very mushy or lots of play, don't recall specifics. Total about $1200 for parts and labor including the alignment.

I asked about using German parts, he said bushing are rubber so it wouldn't make a difference and the ball joints are Moo or Moot brand or something that sounds like that and he said they are superior to OEM. I asked if he was confortable working on a vanagon or should I take it to a VW specific shop. He said it was all pretty straight forward stuff and what he does.

Anyone have experience with this or have input before I spend that much $.

Thanks very much, Dave in Denver

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