Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:04:34 +1000
Reply-To: Stephen Overmyer <S.OVERMYER@UWS.EDU.AU>
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From: Stephen Overmyer <S.OVERMYER@UWS.EDU.AU>
Subject: RE :(NVC) New Zealand car question
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:39:07 -0800
From: Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
Subject: (NVC) New Zealand car question
My apologies for going off Vanagon for a moment but my 20yr old son
escaped from Alaska to Victoria University in Wellington New Zealand
this winter and has asked me for advice on acquiring a used car while
there. As I understand it from him and others, used cars in New
Zealand are abundant and cheap. If anyone has knowledge of the
brands/models that are available with proven reliability records please
advise. He is currently considering Toyota Starlets which I am not
familiar with but as they are Toyotas expect that one that has been
reasonably maintained should be reliable.
TIA
Mark in AK - wishing I was 20 and off in New Zealand at school
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Hi Mark,
I'm not in New Zealand, but being in Australia, just across the Tasman
Sea, I am as close as I want to be...;-)
I wasn't under the impression used cars in NZ were particularly
cheap...they certainly never used to be but I am ready to stand
corrected on that one as the previous high import duties on cars into NZ
may not be what they were...in fact it is starting to ring a bell that
it has changed...
FYI, the Toyota Starlet is a small 2 door/4 seater shopping cart of
about 1200cc.Probably a good thing for your son to consider in NZ as
fuel is not nearly as cheap as you or your son are no doubt used to.
They used to sell the Starlet in Oz too but they are an older model now
however....NZ does some odd things (and not just with cars ;) and it is
possible that the model was imported there for longer than where I am.
Your assumption that a maintained one should be reliable is sound but as
with most small cars (with the notable exception of the Beetle) they are
not known for any exceptional longevity. The ones I still see on the
roads tend to be a bit shabby and appear smoky due to worn compression
rings or valve guides. But that doesn't mean they won't hang in there
for a while longer yet if you keep the oil up to it. What they do lack
is any shred of character or "fahvengnugen" but if a small whitegoods
appliance is what is required, the Starlet probably fits the bill as
well as any other buzz box.
There are a number of other Japanese cars imported to NZ, all boring but
essentially reliable so I doubt your son will be faced with a plethora
of unfamiliar brands.
Fords are imported there from Australia and small models around 1300cc
to 1600cc are called the Ford Laser. Quality and longevity is as with
all Fords....so buyer beware ;-)
The GM product imported from Aus is under the name Holden. Small ones
would have names like the Barina (a re-badged Suzuki Swift) or the
Astra...previously a re-badged Japanese something-or-other and more
recently a re-badged Opel.
Also a Holden model named the Gemini (1600cc) might be available. They
are a re-badged Isuzu and whilst nothing flash, do seem to last....given
the model has not been produced for some years.
I am fairly sure the Hyundai Excel would be available there and
generally command minimal resale value....mainly because the paint soon
looks crappy and the vehicle generally shabby but they still seem to go.
They are popular here in Oz....goodness knows why but again, would
probably suit your son's criteria of a small (reasonably) reliable
car....
Other Korean small car brands he may come across in NZ would be the
Daewoo and the Kia. Pretty damn ordinary conveyances but again would do
for a limited time. Cheaper to buy but also lacking in any decent resale
value....
That's about all I can think of for now....
Cheers,
Steve O
NSW Australia
'92 Transporter WBX Kombi
'00 Transporter Double Cab
'03 Transporter Double Cab (work truck)
'78 Land Rover Series 3 109 soft top ute (ex-Aust.Army)
'07 Passat Variant TDI (on order from the Fatherland....hopefully here
in June)