Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:58:16 -0700
Reply-To: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: In praise of VW inline fours
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Ok- what is the best way to say it?
If not "designed", which word should you replace
"designed" with?
Robert
1982 Westfalia
--- Mike Rouby <mikerouby@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Hate to say this, but these inline 4s are
> actually modified Audi/NSU engines that VW got
> a hold of when they bought those companies (and
> then they refined it). All VW knew to build
> were aircooled-VWs. The waterboxer was the
> last 'horrah', the last true VW engine from the
> VW corporation. It was their vain attempt to
> modernize the Type 1 engine to 'modern-day'
> standards. As we all know, it failed. 1991 was
> it's death knell.
>
> Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> One of the best engines VW designed was the
> four
> cylinder overhead cam inline-four .
>
> You could say it "absolutely rocks" with
> performance and reliability.
> With lots of room for performance upgrades.
>
> I strongly recommend considering a Jetta or
> Golf
> engine (2.0 '93-'99 ABA).
>
> Watercooled Volkswagen engines are plentiful
> and
> cheap. And of course there is the TDI Diesel,
> which is hard to find locally.
>
> Inline-four ABA engines have longer rods which
> minimize vibration that is prone to the 1.8
> engine.
>
> They also have oil spray jets that spray oil at
> the bottoms of the pistons.
>
> Mine has been running my 5,000 lb Westfalia
> since
> 1999. It now has 210,000 miles.
>
> If you are looking for a suitable replacement
> for
> the WBX , look no further.
>
> You can call me a purist, but I am just a VW
> owner. So if you are your own mechanic and a VW
> owner ,then the natural progression is which VW
> engine can I substitute?
>
> Why confuse the issue with a non-VW engine?
> Sure there's a bunch of people out there and
> here
> that want to make money selling Subaru and Ford
> technology. Fine.
>
> You might find it an interesting challenge to
> find what non-VW engine can be adapted to the
> Vanagon. Nothing odd about that.
>
> I'm speaking for those like myself who want to
> have a VW engine in your Vanagon ,but not the
> original engine.
>
> Sure, the Subaru or Ford might be fast and
> quiet
> and like a WBX and reliable etc, but it's not a
> Volkswagen engine.
>
> And reading these posts I see nothing about the
> inline four unless it's a Tiico, as if Tiico
> was
> the only inline four conversion out there.
>
> My dad put a VW engine in a airplane . The flat
> four design, the weight, the similarity to
> other
> aircraft engines, made it a popular choice.
>
> Part of the Subaru's popularity is due to it's
> similarity to the WBX. Oh yeah and you can goo
> super fast.
> The Zetech is similar to the VW inline.
> Similarities are OK.
>
> One Vanagon owner just asked if the Subie
> sounds
> like the WBX.
> Another observation-WBX owners like the sound
> of
> the WBX. It just shows how we form an
> attachment
> to the sound of the car.
>
> Would Harley's be popular if they sounded like
> Kawasakis?
>
> The inline four doesn't sound like a WBX.
>
> I recognize the virtues of the WBX, but few
> from
> a maintenance perspective . I do like the
> sound,
> and the quietness. I found the WBX 2.1 muffler
> is
> great on an inline conversion.
>
> Try removing the AC compressor or alternator
> from
> an 89 Honda Civic like on a friends.
>
> They designed it to be worked on up on a hoist.
>
> The inline four has it all on one side , easy
> to
> replace a water pump, alternator, AC
> compressor,
> spark plugs, distributor, etc.
>
> Simplicity, reliability, performance,
> affordability.
>
> We are a small group of people who aprreciate
> drive a vehicle no longer in production and
> with
> diminishing support from VW.
>
> That was recogninzed shortly after the last
> Vanagon rolled off the assembly line.
> This list has help provide a way owners can
> ehlp
> each other where there is limited or
> non-existing
> help.
>
> A good book on water-cooled inline four VW
> engines is the Watercooled Volkswagen
> Performance
> Handbook by Greg Raven
> ISBN 0-7603-0491-2
>
> Robert
> 1982 Westfalia 2.0 ABA '95 Golf
>
>
>
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