Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:16:52 -0400
Reply-To: David Milo <dellaone@GMAIL.COM>
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From: David Milo <dellaone@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: In praise of VW inline fours
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Acquired.
On 4/18/07, Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ok- what is the best way to say it?
>
> If not "designed", which word should you replace
> "designed" with?
>
> Robert
>
> 1982 Westfalia
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> --- Mike Rouby <mikerouby@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > Hate to say this, but these inline 4s are
> > actually modified Audi/NSU engines that VW got
> > a hold of when they bought those companies (and
> > then they refined it). All VW knew to build
> > were aircooled-VWs. The waterboxer was the
> > last 'horrah', the last true VW engine from the
> > VW corporation. It was their vain attempt to
> > modernize the Type 1 engine to 'modern-day'
> > standards. As we all know, it failed. 1991 was
> > it's death knell.
> >
> > Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > One of the best engines VW designed was the
> > four
> > cylinder overhead cam inline-four .
> >
> > You could say it "absolutely rocks" with
> > performance and reliability.
> > With lots of room for performance upgrades.
> >
> > I strongly recommend considering a Jetta or
> > Golf
> > engine (2.0 '93-'99 ABA).
> >
> > Watercooled Volkswagen engines are plentiful
> > and
> > cheap. And of course there is the TDI Diesel,
> > which is hard to find locally.
> >
> > Inline-four ABA engines have longer rods which
> > minimize vibration that is prone to the 1.8
> > engine.
> >
> > They also have oil spray jets that spray oil at
> > the bottoms of the pistons.
> >
> > Mine has been running my 5,000 lb Westfalia
> > since
> > 1999. It now has 210,000 miles.
> >
> > If you are looking for a suitable replacement
> > for
> > the WBX , look no further.
> >
> > You can call me a purist, but I am just a VW
> > owner. So if you are your own mechanic and a VW
> > owner ,then the natural progression is which VW
> > engine can I substitute?
> >
> > Why confuse the issue with a non-VW engine?
> > Sure there's a bunch of people out there and
> > here
> > that want to make money selling Subaru and Ford
> > technology. Fine.
> >
> > You might find it an interesting challenge to
> > find what non-VW engine can be adapted to the
> > Vanagon. Nothing odd about that.
> >
> > I'm speaking for those like myself who want to
> > have a VW engine in your Vanagon ,but not the
> > original engine.
> >
> > Sure, the Subaru or Ford might be fast and
> > quiet
> > and like a WBX and reliable etc, but it's not a
> > Volkswagen engine.
> >
> > And reading these posts I see nothing about the
> > inline four unless it's a Tiico, as if Tiico
> > was
> > the only inline four conversion out there.
> >
> > My dad put a VW engine in a airplane . The flat
> > four design, the weight, the similarity to
> > other
> > aircraft engines, made it a popular choice.
> >
> > Part of the Subaru's popularity is due to it's
> > similarity to the WBX. Oh yeah and you can goo
> > super fast.
> > The Zetech is similar to the VW inline.
> > Similarities are OK.
> >
> > One Vanagon owner just asked if the Subie
> > sounds
> > like the WBX.
> > Another observation-WBX owners like the sound
> > of
> > the WBX. It just shows how we form an
> > attachment
> > to the sound of the car.
> >
> > Would Harley's be popular if they sounded like
> > Kawasakis?
> >
> > The inline four doesn't sound like a WBX.
> >
> > I recognize the virtues of the WBX, but few
> > from
> > a maintenance perspective . I do like the
> > sound,
> > and the quietness. I found the WBX 2.1 muffler
> > is
> > great on an inline conversion.
> >
> > Try removing the AC compressor or alternator
> > from
> > an 89 Honda Civic like on a friends.
> >
> > They designed it to be worked on up on a hoist.
> >
> > The inline four has it all on one side , easy
> > to
> > replace a water pump, alternator, AC
> > compressor,
> > spark plugs, distributor, etc.
> >
> > Simplicity, reliability, performance,
> > affordability.
> >
> > We are a small group of people who aprreciate
> > drive a vehicle no longer in production and
> > with
> > diminishing support from VW.
> >
> > That was recogninzed shortly after the last
> > Vanagon rolled off the assembly line.
> > This list has help provide a way owners can
> > ehlp
> > each other where there is limited or
> > non-existing
> > help.
> >
> > A good book on water-cooled inline four VW
> > engines is the Watercooled Volkswagen
> > Performance
> > Handbook by Greg Raven
> > ISBN 0-7603-0491-2
> >
> > Robert
> > 1982 Westfalia 2.0 ABA '95 Golf
> >
> >
> >
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