Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 13:38:34 -0400
Reply-To: Ben <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
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From: Ben <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject: Re: Mechanic VS customer (i need you imput!)
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Guys, as my English is not perfect, when you say "Jambs", or other words
you take to (i think) describe the "in between" inside and out side,
like that pictures:
http://www.cabelas.com
between capet and outside, same for the door???
If it's what you mean, of course i had planed to do those!!! i would
never give the van like that, it's not a question of money but a pride
one, this section is already taped and ready to spray.
I think i was not clear enough on my first post , sorry, i had too many
beers when i wrote that yesterday :-)
The main and only problem is the guys was hopping for at least a darker
shade instead of a "more pale/lighter" one.
Of course, my mistake was to asume that the color should have been
more... close to the original, and i should have told him so. But even
then, i'm not sure what the original look like????! All i have is a 15
year old Autocolor sample, 2 by 2, and that sample is closer to my color
than his interior.
When you work 2 weeks on a project like that, you don't care at all if
it take a few more hours to blend the inside with the outside, i have NO
problem with that.
One last thing, and that is very important, i used a "Cleam/tan" primer!
not a darker grey one, why, because the expensive "Cream" one as
anticorosion agents in it, it's also a good "builder" type primer, a
very good product, but they only make this one in a cream/tan color. So
it explain a bit the lighter blue. This vas was so mess up that i had no
choice to use that primer, giving a bit more chance to stop some rust
pigmentation.
Anyway, i have learn, again, something this week.
Regards, Ben
mordo wrote:
> The only way you could conceivably match 20 year old outomotive paint
> is to have a paint chip scanned and then a custom formulation made. As
> Dave said, different pigments react to UV exposure differently - no
> way to estimate what it will do. Car dealers use a handheld photo
> scanner to check a used car for body repairs and repaints. it gives a
> comparison of reflectivity at different places around the body.
>
> Presumably your client wanted the van repainted to be like new. That
> is what they got. If the only issue is the jambs, I vote to paint just
> them. That seems like the best compromise for you. I'm sure it is tres
> dur to paint *just* the jambs but you wouldn't have to give up cash,
> just time.
>
> Nice paint work.
>
> mordo
>
>
> On 4/28/07, benoit <huotb@videotron.ca <mailto:huotb@videotron.ca>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi and thanks, as a test, the liscense plate was painted with Dupond
> Premium ( i had small quantity made), at 95-100% , it's the same
> as the
> Valspar..... far from the inside also.... both are the Exact VW code:
> Dove Blue Metallic-LH5U, same # on dash.
>
> http://www.gti16v.com/vwcc1987.htm#vwcc1987
> <http://www.gti16v.com/vwcc1987.htm#vwcc1987>
>
> But wait, outside i have a 84 VAn for parts, same color, same
> code, this
> van match the interior, BUT'! the mirror have been remove, and under
> those, the color match mine????? this van was not painted and is
> faded,
> or should i say, darker!!!!!!!
>
> I'm confuse, at first, i was sure they made a mistake and have mix
> the H
> for a K (Artic Blue Metallic (LK5U)
> http://www.gti16v.com/vwcslk5u.htm#vwcslk5u
> <http://www.gti16v.com/vwcslk5u.htm#vwcslk5u>
> But i went to the paint place and i have seen how it's done,
> impossible!
>
> So here i am with 2 correct paint code, 2 different paint
> companies and
> about the same color, still, both are way off the original paint, at
> least today's interior.
>
> Ben
>
>
> Kjmmensing@aol.com <mailto:Kjmmensing@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 4/28/2007 1:40:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA <mailto:huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> writes:
> >
> > http://www.benplace.com/87_dove_blue.htm
> >
> > Anyway, a long story to tell you how hi feel about me
> working like
> > a dog and
> > an unsatisfied customer.
> >
> > I want your advices as customers? just remember one thing, this
> > van was a
> > piece of junk... ready for the garbage.
> >
> > Thank you for your time and input, and thanks for any
> advices, if
> > I have
> > bored anyone whit this post, I'm sorry.
> >
> > Hi Ben
> > As a small business owner I know how emotional these things can be.
> > Attacking the customers vehicle will not help the situation.
> >
> > The bottom line is the paint does not match and what can be done?
> >
> > I know a lot of paints have a number and than plus and minus shade
> > variations.
> > This looks to me like a complete different code # though.
> >
> > Maybe you can talk to the paint supply store, and if need be , to
> > the manufacturer of the paint.
> > If it is indeed the proper code and something went wrong with the
> > mixing or the
> > base paints than at the very least maybe they will supply the new
> > paint or help in some other way.
> >
> > Considering the original condition of the vehicle; for me painting
> > the jams would be a good compromise.
> >
> >
> > Jeff E.
> > Atlanta , Ga.
> > 87' Westy "weekender"
> > 91' GL "Drop dead red" ( now living in Canada with Blair )
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> mordo
> 1990 Carat
>
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