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Date:         Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:54:45 -0400
Reply-To:     Joy Hecht <hecht.joy@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Joy Hecht <hecht.joy@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Going towards a new era...
In-Reply-To:  <vanagon%2007042222104170@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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Ben, you sound like a lucky guy. Yeah, you work your butt off, and you put a lot of time into things that you're not sure anyone appreciates, and the business hasn't climbed into positive yet.

BUT - you are doing something you love, you are making it work, and you have a great philosophy of life to go with it.

And that's what's important, I think.

Joy

**************************************************************** Joy Hecht now living in a real house in northern Virginia and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon now living in the driveway and resting after two and a half years lugging Joy and her stuff around...

For musings about life traveling in the van or living in one place: http://www.joyhecht.net

****************************************************************   :::-----Original Message----- :::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf :::Of Benny boy :::Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:08 PM :::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM :::Subject: Re: Going towards a new era... ::: :::You don't mind if i get into this one :-), anyway, i'm outside, in my Red :::Westy, with my laptop (WiFi), with a beer, the outside temp is 72F, yea, :::way :::above average for Montreal... so it's a nice night.. i'm relaxing! ::: :::I had a dream... have a shop one day (i had a pretty good job at that :::time :::$$$), at the time, i didn't know exactly what kind of shop, i thought a :::motorcycle shop... so a few years ago, exaclty 2.5 years, i starded my :::oficial Westy shop! (was working beside the house before), i had a 30K :::margin (can i say that in English?) and maybe 10k of cash.... since 2 :::years, :::i have been working HARD 6.5 days a week, between 8-10 a day. today, I'm :::still in the deep minus of my margin (but climbing hard now), i have a :::nice :::Red van (fully paid) that i could sell and have no company debt but i :::have :::decided to keep it! he he. My shop is (finaly) fully equiped. I began :::with :::not much, you should see some pictures, but someone (who made a lot of :::money) told me, buy the minimum, and if you need something, think twice! :::ask ::: yourself if you really need it! So i went slowly, very slowly, never :::taking :::risk money wise, even for parts, i took a lot of calculated risk, i :::bought :::use vans, thay could have been scrap vans but i was lucky, with the help :::of :::some friends (including Paul Gusyk and Hans from Vanaru) i was able to :::buy :::some decent vans for a cheap price, even then, each van took me over 200- :::250 :::hours of restoration, and at that time, i was so much in need of money :::that :::i sold thos for a few k of profit... just to get going. ::: :::If all goes good, by october, i should be a free men with 0 deficit. So :::what :::they say is true, it take about 3 years of hard work to get a small :::company :::going, and that, and only if you have a GREAT product or services. ::: :::That said, a company is always moving, changing, adapting, what will i do :::in :::my shop in a few years! i have no idea, maybe westy, maybe boat? I don't :::know. Now, i have failed before in many attempt, but this time, i think :::i'm :::ok, so, why did i fail before? Energy? wrong product? bad timing? who :::knows! :::The only thing i can tell you is hard work, and.... hard work! a good :::idea :::and some potentiel customers even before you open. And one last VERY :::important thing, you have to love what you do! PERIOD! if your preety :::good, :::have some money, great idea, hard working... you have a chance, only a :::chance... if you don't have those, no chance at all. ::: :::So, for your project! why not, your in the US, 300 millions peoples, get :::a :::good crew, a small place.. advertise on the web. Why not. Now, is the :::Vanagon platform a good idea, i'm not sure... ::: :::Yea, i'm sitting in my van and looking at it, 300+ hours of hard work, it :::was a piece of scrap when i got it... about 19k cost invested + the :::Vanaru :::engine comming this week + an AA Transaxle + a few other small things :::left, :::total... pfffffffff. let say that the retail price of the van is 23k, + :::300 :::hours (2 months) 8-9k + a vanaru engine 7.5K + a trany 1.5K, what! about :::40K :::for a 22 year old shell that look like a new one, would you pay that? I :::know :::i would. ::: :::Now, ask yourself if insurance or banking company would do a loan of 40k :::for :::a 20+ year old vans??? not a collection van but a hard woirking one... :::where :::are we with this???? most 20+ yo vehicle are collection vehicle, no, this :::one is different, it's a small old rebuilt RV. And if you have 40k cash :::to :::spend, would you buy a restored Vanagon camper????? Answer that question :::and :::you will make my day, because i can't. ::: :::Me, i'm not dreaming no more. By the way, thanks Larry Chase (yea, the :::Roahaus guy), you got me going with your intelligent advices that year, :::yea, :::near that St-Laurent river, yea, the year i helped you going with your :::engine... and trany. The year that some here "blasted" you for willing to :::finish your trip without much money, wile "they" were sitting at home :::dreaming of your trip. they were just jealous bro, nothing else! ::: :::Keep on driving and see you out there. North America is not perfect, far :::from it, but it's a nice spot on earth, we just need to take care of it a :::bit more. ::: :::For the sake of a nice discussion. ::: :::Ben :::http://www.benplace.com :::


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