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Date:         Sun, 6 May 2007 09:23:11 -0700
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From:         GMac999 <gmac999@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Help identifying part (image provided)
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One other thing I would like to add to Matt's description. Also check the front of the vehicle for strange wires. I've had two vehicles, one a 76 van, that had weird things happening with the lights. The DPO's had towed them behind motorhomes and ran wires under the front to connect the tow lights.

Greg

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Matt Roberds Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:07 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Help identifying part (image provided)

> From: neil <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> > Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:37:57 -0700 > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil/iWeb/Site%205/Mystery%20part.html

I know this part has already been identified and excised, but I figured I'd add a little...

Most small trailers in the US and Canada have one lamp on each side that serves as both the turn signal and brake lamp. Historically, most US cars had a similar arrangement for their rear lamps, so hooking up trailer lights was pretty simple - the left trailer lamp hooked to the same wire as the left rear car lamp, and the right trailer lamp hooked to the same wire as the right rear car lamp.

Most European and Japanese cars, as well as more recent US cars, have two rear lamps on each side - one with a red lens for the brake lamp, and one with a yellow (usually) or red (sometimes) lens for the turn signal lamp. You've got two wires on each side of the car, but only one wire on each side of the trailer. You can't just hook all three wire ends together, because that would make the lamps on the car operate incorrectly. Using two diodes would sort of work - the car lamps would operate correctly, but the trailer lamps would only flash with the car turn signals until you stepped on the brakes - then the trailer lamps would come on solid no matter what the turn signals on the car were doing.

That box does the magic to make the trailer lamps behave correctly when connected to a car with separate rear turn and brake lamps. They come in various flavors - some are a box with wires on both the "car" and "trailer" ends; some have wires on the "car" end and a built-in connector on the "trailer" end; some fancy ones have connectors to match the factory wiring harness on the "car" end and a built-in connector on the "trailer" end so they can be installed without any splicing at all.

The "trailer" end of the wiring is usually (not always!) four wires: white (ground), brown (running lights), green (right turn/stop), and yellow (left turn/stop). If you see a harness of white-brown-green- yellow or brown-green-yellow wires hanging out near the rear bumper of a car, it's quite often someone's attempt at a trailer wiring connection. You can usually get 14 and 16 gauge four-wire "ribbon cable" (four insulated wires bonded together) at the FLAPS.

The "car" end of the wiring varies more, but on the converter boxes, a common configuration is five wires: white (ground), brown (running lights), green (right turn only), yellow (left turn only), red (stop). Some converter boxes omit the white (ground) wires on both the "car" and "trailer" sides, so there are only four wires on the "car" side and three on the "trailer" side.

Mini rant: The ground wire is NOT OPTIONAL! No, it won't ground through the hitch ball - at least not after you hit the first bump! Both the trailer and the car need ground wires. Even a wire that runs from the trailer half of the connector to a sheet metal screw on the trailer frame, and a wire that runs from the car half of the connector to a sheet metal screw into the car body, is better than hoping it will ground through the hitch ball. The Syncro Deluxe version is to make the ground wire one or two gauges thicker than the other wires, and to replace the sheet metal screw with a bolt, flat washer, ring terminal, toothed washer, (car or trailer metal), flat washer, and self-locking nut in that order. Hitch-ball grounding and/or broken ground wires are the leading cause of flickering trailer lights. End of mini rant.

In general, one of the few things that will drive you crazier than DPO stereo wiring is DPO trailer wiring. If you have a car, truck, or van that's new to you and the outside lights are acting weird, run, don't walk to the back of the car and inspect carefully for signs of trailer wiring. This applies even if no sane person would attempt to tow a trailer with that kind of vehicle (i.e., Geo Metro or similar). If there are strange wires dangling around that are connected to the rear lights, and you can't convince yourself that they are stock, get rid of them. This can help your sanity immensely.

Matt Roberds

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