Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 14:53:12 -0700
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From: "mike ." <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Subject: Was 1984 VW Vanagon Camper Now GTO
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GTO was the designation that Ferrari used and that was indeed what it meant.
[I think O was Omligato but that's homologated was what it meant] Even
though they only produce 53 or 54 [Ferrari doesn't believe in keeping
records]
Then Pontiac borrowed it, and GT 2+2. Don't know of anyone else who used it
actually.
GTO run about $10 million right now.
I don't.
MikeWasw
On 5/7/07 2:04 PM, "joel walker" <jwalker17@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>> What does the "GL" designation mean?
>
>
> nobody really knows ... and vw never said.
>
> but it goes back to the semi-olden days of cars ... when the
> manufacturers wanted to designate their luxo models from the plebian
> grocery-carriers. ;)
> L - usually meant Luxury or some form of that word - more 'stuff' than
> the base models.
> GL - was then Grande Luxury; more better than just the L.
> GLS - was Grand Luxury Sport!! more better than L but more
> sporty/racey than the GL.
> GT - Grande Touring. not sport, but not luxury ... sort of comfy
> trip-taking.
> GTO - was Grande Touring Obligato or however you say Olbigatory in
> Italian. :) it meant that at least 100 of these cars had been produced
> to meet the rules of racing in certain classes under the regulations
> of some european racing organizations. if you didn't build at least
> 100 of them, you had to race against a different bunch of folks (who
> usually had lots more money and bigger engines!).
>
> don't think i ever saw a just-G label. but there were LS, and later
> the japanese started up the XL and XLS ... Xtra Luxury? :)
>
> so basically, it's just a trim/interior/accoutrements difference
> designator ....
> an L might have carpet (instead of the rubber mats that were used in
> the base models)
> but a GL might have carpet AND leather seats AND power mirrors.
> whereas a GLS would have carpet and leather seats but a manual
> transmission and more hp in the engine.
> a GT might have carpet and leather seats, manual transmission and more
> hp, but air conditioning (as standard. already figured into the
> price), and fog lights or driving lights or both.
> and a GTO might have almost nothing ... since it was expected that you
> were going to fit it out with your own seats and if you're racing, you
> don't want/need carpet, and so on.
>
> so it kinda works this way:
> no letters - cheap car.
> the more letters, the more expensive the car.
> :)
>
> simple, yes?
>
> hope it helps. ;)
> unca joel
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