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Date:         Tue, 22 May 2007 07:44:17 -0700
Reply-To:     Zoran Mladen <zmaninco@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Zoran Mladen <zmaninco@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Need AT final drive seal replacement pointers
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
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I am going to tackle this job this weekend on a friends 88. I am ordering the governor seal as well as the pinion seals. I want to be sure I am ordering the right ones. Are these part number 089-409-529D and pictured in ETKA 7.0 on illustration 5.19.59-00

Can someone please confirm? These look right but I am surprised by the size of them - 38x54x7

I will also order the o-rings - numbers 25 and 26 on this illustration.

Thanx!

Z

----- Original Message ---- From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2006 4:42:13 AM Subject: Re: Need AT final drive seal replacement pointers

Are you sure the problem is through those seals. ATF going into the final drive can also be the governor seal. Part # 003-507-125-A. There is drain hole to allow oil that gets past one of the seals to drain out before getting into the other compartment. If the seal are leaking, there should be oil dripping out this hole. It is located just behind the ATF pan. Make sure it is not plugged. The OEM seal have raised edges on the seal faces so that after they are installed there is space between the seals. Get them for the dealer. Removing the bearing housing will be needed. There are o-rings that will need to be replaced.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Robert Smythe Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:27 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Need AT final drive seal replacement pointers

Cover me! I'm goin' in!

I believe I have all the replacement seals and fluid required to perform this job, but the bentley manual shows everything clean, disassembled, and liberally sprinkled with special tools. I am seeking counsel from someone who has done the repair sufficient to keep the ATF out of the gear oil. I dont like the idea of scrambling to find a machine shop with a press open on sat/sun. My skill level is somewhere between novice and intermediate. Im taking it on because I cant afford the quote I got to do the work. I might just learn something.

Specific questions:

I have 2 of the pinion seals, but do I need to remove the pinion from the final drive to r&r the seals? From the drawing in bently page 39.57 it looks as if the pair of seals are accessible after the AT is removed, UNLESS they are very tightly bound between the cover plate and the oil seal sleeve.

If I do have to remove the pinion, do I have to check end play and be prepared to shim as indicated in bentley? ( I didn't actually buy parts to cover this)

I was tentatively planning to remove the ATF cooler from the tranny before dismounting the AT and let it dangle from the coolant lines to avoid bleeding the cooling system. Possible? Dumb idea?

Any firsthand experience will be greatly appreciated. I promise to make lots of photos and a procedure available, should I succeed. If I fail, my specific failure procedure wont be interesting I reckon.

Robert 90 MV AT-wishing I had a 4speed manual

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