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Date:         Tue, 22 May 2007 17:33:10 -0400
Reply-To:     Roger Sisler <rogersisler2000@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Roger Sisler <rogersisler2000@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Black oxide finish on stainless steel

I am getting a fourth set of stainess steel screws together. This set is to suppliment the set I sell for the Vaangon body(not fibergalss top). It will supply the final screws needed for repacement to stainless steel.

What I am going to include is 2 machine bolts for attaching the overflow tank near the rear bumper. 2 washers will be included as OEM. I think Vw used washers to prevent the paint from chipping when the screw is tightened against the paint.2 screws to attach the license plate door( 2 washers, too).

4 metric sheet metal screw to attach the lens to the two license plate lights, just above the tag door. This is hard black plastic and can easily break if stressed by an oversized screw.Needs to be metric.Best to replace these screws one at a time and not actually remove the tag light from this position it is in. It may break.

A nylon insert lock nut and washer for the rear wiper, to help keep it in proper position.

Two sheet metal screws and washers for attaching the sliding door cover to the body.3 sheet metal screws and three washers where the gas filler tube attaches to the body(behind the gas cap). These two different locations have no soft plastic nuts for the screws to attach to, so they need to be mertic replacements.They fasten directly,through steel.Dont want to cause new steel to be exposed for rusting. This may happen with using an American screw substituted. You might not mind, but the next person would, so I cant offer American sized screws, here.Sorry

Finally, the 5 black oxide screws for the lower grill.

This is 29 pieces. Im going to sell them in a set. I think the only other screws on the Vanagon, not avaliabel from me, are for the end caps and attaching the license plate holder to the bumper( on some Vanagons). I could get the hardware for attaching the palstic to the lower area on Carat, as the big square flat spacer/washers are avaliable in stainless steel. The mirrors are the only stainless steel screws that VW put on the Vanagon at the factory .Repalcement mirrors usually supply a plated steel screw that will begin to rust within a week.Best to reuse your OEM screws,here.

This set will cost more that would be expected.This is because of all the metric sheet metal screws, and black oxide. The 4 machine bolts are not expensive, costing less than the smallest of the metric sheet metal screws outlined above.This is not for everybody.There are very nice Vanagons out there that can use them.After a repaint, the old trim looks marginal. Mcmaster-Carr , MSC, WW Grainger,ect dont sell metric sheet metal screws. Not necessary they say, as sheet metal screw sizes are not brain surgery. Most people substitue metric with American.How could I do this, and answer a complaint?

Maybe I will get OEM style footman loops(tie downs) for the luggage rack made up.They are unavaliable in stainless steel as far as I can tell.Go Westy would sell them if they were avaliable,right?? They sell thenm in galvanized,like you already have. The tooling will cost $1200 alone,but the final product would be second to none. I may get them forged,instead of casted.I've been working on this. In the end the total pieces of stainless steel on a Westy would approach 300. I may also get the stainless steel self tapping screws/washers for the black plastic end caps. I would like to offer everything stainless ontehexterior.Even the little frame that the license plate attach to, and is currently rusted badly. I thik many people treat the license plate and what attaches it to the vehicle , like some people treat the little strip of land that the county owns ,out in front of your house. It gets ignored.

The sheet metal screws supplied in the 36 piece set I currently sell for the exterior , all screw into soft plastic nuts.Tail lights are an expample. American sizes work just great. I have sold more than 100 such sets, since August. Not one problem!!! To suppliment these, to complete the exterior of the 7 passenger/westy,takes metric only(exotehoverflow tank and tag door), to do it right. Not sure of the final price ,yet, but it will be similar to the price of the 36 piece set. Take a look http://stores.ebay.com/werksforwwagens


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