Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:06:19 -0700
Reply-To: TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
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From: TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
Subject: spring vs gear clamps on silicone hose Re: Silcone Coolants lines
???Re: 85 Gl Auto Tranny 5/8" Coolant Hoses to
Tranny Cooler Busted-
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Gawd I gotta stop talking to myself :)
I friend mentioned he heard some shop talk that you should really use
spring clamp on silicone because it has more of a tendency to expand/contact
more so than rubber coolant hose & using the smooth faced gear clamps it has
more a tendency
to weep at the joins ???
any experience here / first hand knowledge ??
> well not than any 83-85 1.9 seems to care :)
> but in the end I decided to go with 2ply silicon 5/8" inch heater hose
> and a slinky like spring wrap
> http://www.tamparubber.com/hoseprot.htm (Round Wire Spring Guard)
> my thinking was
> 1) the 4-6ply hose is realy only req in high psi not the 15-20psi for
> colling system
> and it appears the chemical composition is the same regardless of the
> ply
> 2) the spring wrap should help prevent kinks and \
> keep the silicone hose shaped as it exits the nipples on the tranny
> cooler
> 3) stop the hose from chaff against any components since I tie wrapped the
> spring wrap
> not the hose to hold it in place along the tranny & bell housing
> 4) Cost 4-6 ply silicone hose has exponential cost vs 3-5/foot for 2ply
> 5) The goodyear ARMORCOAT in 5/8 is too stiff it wont make the turn of
> the tranny cooler w/o putting undue stress on the cooler & hose
>
> ok next up new post why do these 83-85 1.9 run rich ...new post
>
> > well what do ya think of this ArmourCoast rather than silicone you 83-85
> > 1.9'ers
> > cus your gonna have the same issue sooner or later
> > I'll be the guinea pig
> >
> > Very high pressure applications subject to surges or flexing such as
> > construction equipment, mining and the high performance industrial
market,
> > where maximum abrasion resistance is required.
> >
> > Inner Tube: Neoprene Reinforcement:
> > Four alternating layers of spiralled high-tensile steel wire (sizes
5/8",
> > 3/4" & 1")
> > and six alternating layers of spiralled high-tensile steel wire (sizes 1
> > 1/4", 1 1/2" & 2")
> > Cover Compound: Neoprene with Armorcoat Temperature Range: -40°F 249.8°F
> >
> >
>
http://hydraulics2.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/hosesearch/hose_family_results.cfm?
> > hosefamily=ARMORCOAT%20%20AR13
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "TC" <trclark@SHAW.CA>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:03 PM
> > Subject: Silcone Coolants lines ???Re: 85 Gl Auto Tranny 5/8" Coolant
> Hoses
> > to Tranny Cooler Busted-
> >
> >
> > > Guys no thoughts on Silcone
> > > any one use em at all 2ply 4ply 6plys ??
> > >
> > > > alligators in the swamp I was out at shop who heated up the o2
sensor
> > > cherry
> > > > red
> > > > to get it out trying to resolve a rich runing issue thats another
> post
> > :(
> > > > but when I drive in I see a trail of coolant look up and see coolant
> > > driping
> > > > on the cv joints then
> > > > I see the 1 hose Feed, between pipe and tranny cooler has been
rubbing
> > on
> > > > the cv & is chaffed ...
> > > >
> > > > S I whip out that magic self bonding silicon tape give it a few
wraps
> > wait
> > > > 15 mins and I am on my way
> > > > DONT LEAVE HOME WITHOUT SELF BONDING SILICON TAPE :)
> > > >
> > > > OK : 025121104A is NLA so looks like generic 3' of 5/8" heater hose
> > will
> > > > work
> > > > but I'd like to never ever have to replace these again so .....
> > > > I was thinking its got to some be what flexible to make the loop to
> get
> > on
> > > > the actual tranny cooler so
> > > > real tuff not flexible Gates heater hose is out but
> > > >
> > > > would some 5/8" silicon hose be a better solution I under stand its
> much
> > > > more durable & also flexible
> > > > any reason not to use it ???
> > > >
> > > > also I thought I dunno goodyear maybe made some up armoured heater
> hose
> > > ???
> > > >
> > > > what have you other w 83-85 auto tranny's done to upgrade those
> coolant
> > > > Feed, between pipe and tranny cooler
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