Date:         Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:25:03 -0400
Reply-To:     Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
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From:         Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Subject:      Friday NVC RE: Indy / NASCAR output
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Yeah.. you're talking bleeding edge vs. nursed along 40 year old technology.
It's almost as crazy as buying an engine conversion with a distributor in
2007.

My favorite stuff to marvel at is the mid 70's v8s... so bad they're
awesome.

The olds LV2... an astounding 140HP from 5 liters. Awesome. How does that go
again? No replacement for... poor engine design? Or why not rachet up the
power with a 6.6L big block that makes a whopping 185HP.

That and the whole LF9 nightmare...hey guys, let's make a diesel from a gas
engine, so we don't have to buy new machining centers to make them.
Awesomely bad plan, and a heroic failure of large proportions. I love it.

I still have to fight the echoes of this type of poor engineering in my day
to day, but people are beginning to understand that the real differentiators
are external to branding.

Jim Akiba



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Barrett [mailto:dbx@POBOX.COM]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:17 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Indy / NASCAR output

There's an interesting comparison of Indycar, F1, and NASCAR cars here:

http://www.usgpindy.com/modules/pdf/car_comparison.pdf

Euro F1s get 750hp out of a 2.4L V8; NASCAR gets 790 out of 5.7L V8s.
That's impressive engineering out of the former.

Required Vanagon content: first camping trip of the year in my bus tomorrow!


Best,
d.
1990 GL -- "Mudskipper"



> Date:    Thu, 31 May 2007 18:54:39 -0700
> From:    Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: was Inline 4 trans...Now, displaced...whatever..No van
> content..
>
> I was under the impression that the NASCAR boys were getting something
> like
> 830 HP from their 355 CI motors.
>
> How the heck do you get that from a VW and for how long?
>
>
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