Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:04:09 -0300
Reply-To: David Etter <detter@MAIL.AURACOM.COM>
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From: David Etter <detter@MAIL.AURACOM.COM>
Subject: Re: OT E85 in our future?
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Oops! Sorry Dennis:
I forgot to mention that commercial vehicles were exempt. It
was cars and light trucks I was referring to, but you are right in
theory "Cylinder count is not necessarily an indication of horsepower
or fuel consumption" but generally it is.
It has been shown that taxes on fuel will stop people for a
while but they quickly adjust and with a few well timed price
reductions and contrived shortages then surpluses, we are all right
back at it.
Whereas a one-time break on the purchase of a eco friendly
vehicle produces a longer effect on fuel consumption. As well, most
motor homes across the ocean are 2.5 - 3.0 liter turbo diesels and
are not the behemoths that we have over here.
David (dsl82westy)
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>Cylinder count is not necessarily an indication of horsepower or fuel
>consumption. Many trucks and busses are only 6 cylinders. My present 6
>cylinder Diesel motor home can drink much more fuel than my previous 10
>cylinder gasoline powered one.
>
>I really don't believe in taxes as deterrents to fuel consumption but if
>it most be done, simple taxes per gallon will reduce consumption through
>both use and vehicle selection at purchase time. As for alternative fuels
>such as E85 or Bio-Diesel, the only real advantage is the renewable
>factor. I agree that most of the bio talk and ethanol is show.
>
>Dennis
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>David Etter
>Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:13 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: OT E85 in our future?
>
>Further to that, if you add in the gasoline/diesel consumed by
>farmers in growing the ethanol and they have to make several passes
>over the field, then you begin to see the crazy side of this
>alternative fuel farce. To say nothing about driving up the cost of
>corn for livestock and human consumption and they get incentives to
>grow the corn. It's all about 'show'.
> If you tax vehicle buyers by the number of cylinders and give
>a tax break to diesel fuels like they do in GB & Europe, then
>consumption will drop significantly.
> Heck! In some locations in London they even pro-rate taxes
>depending on cylinder count for parking in front of your own house.
>
> David (dsl82westy)
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>>I'm a day late on the OT post but can't resist. For those that are
>waiting
>>for the 'alternative fuels' read this:
>>http://www.automotiverhythms.com/news/news70.php
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