Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:11:20 -0700
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From: Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: More about rear handle on 84 sliding door.
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This is one reason why I don't trust ETKA and have saved my original Parts
Fiche for my reference work for the past 30 years. Here's the proof. My
handle is original because the original owner confirmed it to me 10 years
ago when I bought my Westy is "that's the way it came, I never asked for
it".
Campmobile Microfiche 2-1983 (Models 80-84), Illustration #103
Key #17 253 070 069 Bracket Mount for Handle
Key #18 Screw 5x15 to attach Bracket Mount to Door, 2 Req'd
Key #19 N0110052 Hex Nut, 5mm Thread for above screw, 2 Req'd
Key #20 253 843 642 01C Handle, Satin Black (Same as front inner Slider
Door Handle).
Key #21 N0141313 Pan Head Phillips Machine Screw, 5x15mm - Handle to
Bracket.
It also appears in Campmobile Fiche 1-1989, same parts as above and shows it
being available to the 1986 model year. 87 & later models on
the illustration on the same fiche, the portion of the illustration showing
the handle and attaching parts was dropped.
It reappears in the Campmobile Fiche 1-1993, Illustration 96 showing it to
be standard equipment on all P27 series Campmobiles (which is what Mr
Squirrel & myself own & drive) thru the 1986 model year, listing all the
parts except the handle itself, although it appears in the illustration.
In ETKA 7, the illustration (96-00) clearly shows the parts BUT no parts
listings in the text, totally dropped out. Dunno about ETKA 5 or 6, don't
use 'em anymore because of many errors.
--
Jim Thompson
84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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On 6/15/07, Mike Rocket J Squirrel Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Well, the handle mystery deepens. Joel sent me an ETKA printout showing
> that my 84 should not have a handle there. "Possibly put on by the PO,"
> he mused. Had to be mounted to the cardboard, was the theory, because
> the door should not have a place to mount it.
>
> But it does, and it's the stock handle that Jake, I believe it was,
> posted a link to a picture of yesterday. I took the inner door cover off
> to adjust the bowden thingy and in the process, found that the handle is
> mounted to a square boss that is bolted to the door metal. So the ETKA
> is wrong, simply put.
>
> Sudhir wondered if maybe that handle is there to aid in closing the
> door. Since the door's final motion in closing is to move inward, and we
> want the rear end of the door to come in far enough that the latch
> catches, the handle, it turns out does exactly that. I had previously
> been closing the door by sliding it forward with so much force that
> momentum caused it to bang into place. But when inside, the handle can
> be used to tug the door inward for the final latch. When outside,
> putting inward pressure on the rear of the door aids the latching
> process, too.
>
> The "thump" made when the door goes into its final latched position is
> still louder than I'd like in an early morning campground, to be polite,
> even with sound damping material applied to the door's skin inside, but
> using the handle or pushing on the door help a lot.
>
> --
>
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> KG6RCR
>
> On 6/15/2007 9:32 AM neil wrote:
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