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Date:         Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:46:43 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: rear brakes ?
Comments: To: jeffmichal@YAHOO.COM
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Where did the shoes come from? I have seen shoes with the linings installed wrong. I have also seen all sorts of variations in the length and position of the linings. The shoes are known as a leading and trailing shoe. One side has the lining cut short on the bottom to leave room for the shoe to grab and force the top into the drum. Since the Vanagon has both the adjuster and cylinder on top, the bottom of the shoes get little action anyway.

As received from the box, the rear shoe with the lever is installed with the lever outside or towards the drum. The front shoe also gets the metal adjuster tab installed out side. The top springs must be installed with the inner hooks facing up. The adjuster bar has the longer fork prong going into the shoe slot and the shorter prong towards the drum.

Hope this helps.

Dennis

>From: Jeff Michal <jeffmichal@YAHOO.COM> >Reply-To: Jeff Michal <jeffmichal@YAHOO.COM> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: rear brakes ? >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:26:28 -0700 > >So a little bit off topic, but I went yesterday to get an inspection. The >mechanic at the filling station did the whacking with the hammer and pulled >the right rear drum off my 90 GL with what appeared to be very little >effort. He indicated that the shoes were on backwards and that this was an >inspection issue. He rejected my van and sent me away. I took a look at >my bentley book and at the tiny pictures I could see on the busdepot >website. It didn't look like it was even physically possible to install >them incorrectly because of the hand brake levers. I took my van to my VW >mechanic this morning and he showed me a good high res picture of the >shoes. It seems pretty clear, the shoes simply cannot be installed >backwards. Someone confirm for me, small shoe in the front or in the rear? >My mechanic has my van right now and he is getting it inspected by someone >else. How can a trained mechanic make a mistake like this? At a minimum >the inspector cost me several hours > of my time, and at the most I can see an attempt to defraud me. The >longer I own my Vanagon the more I worry that every mechanic I let touch it >is going to mess something up, and this doesn't help much. I am >considering contacting the State of Virginia about having the garage's >inspection license revoked, regardless of whether or not they return my >money because it just is not fair for them to be wrong and waste people's >time. Does anyone have an opinion? Am I being harsh? Should I just get my >money back from them and let it go? Ya'll chime in, I love opinions. > >Jeff >90 GL > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Chris Lisica <wavanagon@GMAIL.COM> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:34:11 PM >Subject: Re: rear brakes ? > > >Pretty much what everyone has said. Don't be afraid to whack the drum. I >used a piece of 2x2 oak that I had laying around so I wasn't pounding >directly on the metal drum w/ a hammer. The first time I did this, I even >thought it would be a good idea to drive around the block to heat them up, >but to no avail. I just had the rear brakes off on my 1972 F-100 and I was >actually able to get those off easier than my van! Don't pry on the dust >shield, it bends very easily. Happy beating.... > >On 6/14/07, John Meeks <vanagon@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 6/14/07, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote: > > > Hi, "84 van, no power brakes, manual tranny" > > > > > What I did so far was to tap around the drums, which seemed to >loosen > > up. > > > > Don~ First time I removed the rear drums from my 85, I would describe > > my tapping more as "pounding" using a rubber mallet. The drums > > eventually loosened. Don't be afraid to give it a good whacking :-) > > > > -- > > John Meeks > > > > Vanagon Rescue Squad > > http://www.vanagonauts.com/Vanagon_Rescue_Squad74.htm > > > > '91 Multivan, '85 GL > > Top o' Northern Michigan > > KC8ZFN > > > > > >-- >Chris >88 Vanagon GL >02 Golf GLS TDI (SOLD, looking for a Westy, now that I know what I really >like to drive) > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated >for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. >http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow


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