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Date:         Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:21:15 -0700
Reply-To:     neil <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         neil <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Outhouse fan
Comments: To: Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <46740110.3030009@gmail.com>
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Interesting stuff.

I too have considered going "Norcold".

I'll give my mod a try, and if'n it's useless, may go with the aforementioned.

Neil.

On 6/16/07, Michael Elliott <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Loren, Handy Hint #12 about the Norcold. I've had one for over a year > now so I know whereof I speak. The refrigerator compressor itself is > pretty quiet. It emanates a low hum when running and that's about it. > But the reefer does vibrate with it, causing the cabinet and everything > in it and connected to it to vibrate in sympathy. Sometimes making > enough noise to get a fellow up, cursing, in the middle of the night to > prod and poke and bang on things, hoping to stop whatever the heck it is > /this time/ that is making such a gawdaful noise. The stove top makes a > heck of a noise. > > Prior to our last camping trip, I removed the Norcold and got to work in > the cabinet and under the stove top to secure, damp, and otherwise > eliminate possible causes of noise. Under the stainless top of the > stove, for example, you'll find bits of sheet metal and stuff that may > be lightly in contact with the underside of the top. Move them a bit > farther away or put something between them and the top so the parts > don't rattle when tapped or shaken. This is a gas stove to make sure any > "fixes" you put in are appropriate gas-wise and heat-wise. > > The rear of the cabinet comes close to, but does not really firmly press > against the thin wall of the van, so those two bits can rattle. Thin > strips of foam insulation there can damp that out. At the top front of > the reefer is a plastic facade with vent slots, to help vent the > cabinet. The cabinet is already plenty well-vented for use with the > Dometic, so those slots aren't needed for venting, but they provide an > exit acoustic path for compressor and other in-cabinet noises, and since > we sleep on the bottom bunk, that puts the noise right beside my ear. I > blocked those openings with foam shoved in from behind. I also put > weatherstripping around the reefer opening before re-mounting the reefer. > > Tap everything and look for rattles. The only remaining thing that > rattles here is where the thin sidewall joins the trim under the > windows. It is held in place in a narrow slot in some trim bit but it's > not tight within that slot -- I could hear it rattle when I tapped the > sidewall. Were I to remove the sink cabinet I could probably insert a > thin strip of something into the gap and silence that rattle, but that > was more involved that I wanted to get into, so instead I shoved a thin > wood wedge between the rear of the cabinet and the side wall, loading it > into the trim so it can't rattle. > > When going to bed, I place a towel on the stove grill, and make sure I > don't have any loose spoons or other rattly items on the stove or in the > sink, and close the stove top lid. > > Anyway, the result of all this was dramatic. Instead of being repeatedly > waken by buzzes and rattles loud enough to wake the neighbors, all I > heard for four nights was a low Magic Fingers hum. > > > -- > Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott > 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus > 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") > 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano > KG6RCR > > > > Loren Busch typed: > > RE: > >> > >> I don't use my city water hookup and I've often thought that a tiny > >> computer fan in place of the > >> hookup might do the trick. > > > > > > BTDT, a very easy install. Pull the intake, disconect the internal hoe, > > plug with a 3/8 flare pleug. Hacksaw the back part of the inlet off, epoxy > > a 3" muffin fan, wire up and figure out a place for the switch, pop it back > > together. > > > > RE: > > > >> I could sell you myfridge and all my upgrades later this year when I > >> get a > >> Norcold... = ) > > > > > > And so can I. My Norcold arrives first of next week.... > > >

-- Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia.

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