Whoa ... Lets be a bit kind to one another here .... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike S" <mikes@FLATSURFACE.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: Re: What is it with the US? (No real van content)
> At 03:31 PM 6/26/2007, Karl Mullendore wrote... >>Who the hell is talking about corn? Biodiesel production does not use >>corn oil. Now this on top of what I said earlier? >> >>"Corn ethanol is one of the worst ways to produce ethanol, not only in >>yield but in production costs." >> >>PLEASE, READ what is written before blindly responding. > > Only if you do the same. Again, no authoritative citations to support > your claims. > > The ethanol paper and article was cited primarily to meet your > objection - that some studies found net energy gains. The citation > specifically addressed that - "Patzek said that studies showing energy > gain do not take into account the amount of energy stored in the corn." > The paper gave an idea of the scale of that accounting. > > The ethanol/biodiesel paper which I earlier cited was from the same > author, based on the same methodology, and reached a similar conclusion > for biodiesel in addition to ethanol. The earlier ethanol only paper > had the advantage of being freely downloadable. If you want a link to > the ethanol/biodiesel paper, I can give you one, but it costs $ (it's > from a Springer published journal). > > On the other hand, if you just want to continue throwing out red > herrings, we're done here. |
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