Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:59:26 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Adding oil pressure and temp gauges?
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Mike, this is a link to Van-Cafe's oil pressure gauge kit.
http://www.van-cafe.com/vanagon_parts.jsp?pa=p&p=297115875
On 6/24/07, David Etter <detter@mail.auracom.com> wrote:
>
> Mike:
>
> 1x # 350-040 VDO electric Oil Pressure gauge - Bus Boys 52mm $31.25
>
> 1x #360-006 Dual contact VDO oil press. Sender - Bus-Boys $37.50
>
> Old prices above... and maybe eGauges are cheaper..
>
> Now! There is already one pressure sender installed in the Head.
> Remove that and install your new "Dual Contact" pressure sender.
> Everything is M10 x 1 but you can use 1/8-27 NPT stuff.
> I didn't because I didn't wish to push the threads; keep everything
> standard I always say.
> Just follow instructions with the "dual contact" sender - the
> existing sender wire is for the idiot light and provision is provided
> in the 2 contact posts for this.
> That's the pressure sender and gauge taken care of... now...
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> The oil temperature Gauge.... There is a VW OEM 300 deg Temp sender
> (# 049-919-563A) for VW gauges that will work with the VDO gauge.
> It's cheaper but it's shorter element bothers me. I want my element
> thingy to stick as far in as possible to be as accurate and fast
> reading as possible. So I opted for the more expensive VDO #323-423
> (below). It's element is a little longer and size matters. It's also
> very skinny and looks like it would screw right in out of sight, but,
> it doesn't and there's more room to work with now. Both are M10 x
> 1...
>
> 1 x #310-106 Oil Temp Gauge 300Deg VDO (Vision Series) 52mm from
> $25.55 http://www.egauges.com/default.asp
>
> 1 x # 323-423 300 Deg Oil Temp sender M10 x 1 $25.00 eGauges also
>
> Some people use a "T" at the Oil Filter Mount to install the Temp
> sender PLUS keep the existing second Oil Press sender. I opted for
> removing the existing pressure sender from above the Oil Filter and
> relocating it up to the Head beside the other one by installing the
> "T" at the head (I now have two pressure senders coming off the same
> head orifice. One is OEM and the other is the VDO "Dual contact"
> sender.)
>
> I didn't like the idea of having a "T" adaptor at the oil filter
> location because I think that the "T" would elevate/set the
> Temperature sender too far away from the circulating oil, as well as
> perhaps cause fitment problems with both sets of wires. Others have
> said that the VDO temp sender's element MAY be a problem in that
> since it is longer it MAY not fit in the "T" along with the OEM
> press. sender. This is why using the OEM VW temp. sender would be
> shorter and not cause fitment problems at the "T". Then again it is
> further out and away from the circulating oil.
> The increased distance is over an inch and maybe there won't
> be a probem with detecting rapid oil temp changes or even accuracy,
> but I didn't wish to take the chance.
>
> Here is where the "T" adaptor comes from...
>
> T Adapter - VW, male, M10 x 1 Part No: 240-850 eGauges $6.65..
>
> eGauges "T" adaptor is too short to be used by itself on the head.
>
> You probably will have to go to a Metric supply shop like "Bosch" and
> pick up a short 'extender" (about 1/2 inch long) for your new "T"
> fitting. That is because once mounted on the head the "T" doesn't
> supply the side opening far enough away from the block to allow you
> to rotate/tighten the OEM pressure sender. That "T" from eGauges is
> too short. Maybe some other supplier has a taller "T" adaptor.
>
> Good Luck! and YMMV.
>
> David (dsl82westy)
>
> P.S.: Caveat: I have a 1.6 TD diesel and use the second Oil Pressure
> sender as a switch to close the circuit on a relay that charges my
> house battery. I believe however that the WBX has the two pressure
> senders. one is 0.3 millibars and the other is 0.9 millibars approx.
> not that it matters a crock in my case.
>
>
>
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>
> >Can anyone recommend the bits I'd need to buy to add oil pressure and
> >oil temp gauges to Mellow Yellow? A one-vendor solution would be helpful
> >but not necessary. I have an auto transmission if that affects mounting
> >options.
> >
> >--
> >Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> >71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> >84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> >74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> >KG6RCR
>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
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