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Date:         Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:36:36 -0700
Reply-To:     Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: slightVC: TDI vs hybrid (was: Re: TDI conversion thoughts)
Comments: To: Harold Teer <teer.vanagon@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <ffd6b090706281219s7afd1168if57b067128bdd72a@mail.gmail.com>
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And I thought my wife and I were the only couple that had this pair of vehicles..... :)

'91 Westy '02 Prius

I've never regretted purchasing new either vehicle. Especially as fuel prices rise.

There is another matter that will get debated regarding gas mileage. For a while back there was some changes in the EPA MPG rating of the Prius because people were saying that it didn't get the MPG that was listed. What I was wondering is when they re-did the MPG tests, did they do it with other vehicles as well. I would bet a real apples to apples comparison. Just for the record, our Prius actually reflects the original MPG on the sticker quite well.

Steven --- Harold Teer <teer.vanagon@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I am a Westy owner who loves his '91 Westy purchased > in '96. It is in > excellent condition but we won't go into the money > spent keeping it up or I > may not love it as much. > > My wife and I also own a Prius and I think some > correct information on the > Prius is in order. > > The battery in the Prius is warranted for 8 years or > 100,000 miles (10 years > and 150,000 miles in California). Many, many people > have over 200,000 miles > on a Prius (original battery) and one person has > driven their Prius over > 285,000 miles without replacing the battery. And, > the cost of a new battery > is falling. It is now down to about $2,400 retail, > which is down from about > $3,000. Plus Toyota pays the dealer to turn any old > battery (wrecked > vehicle) back to Toyota. > > If you want facts and not speculation about the > Prius battery, go to: > "http://www.toyota.com/html/hybridsynergyview/2006/fall/battery.html" > > If you want to learn anything else about the Prius, > go to a great users > group "http://priuschat.com/" and use the search > engine for battery or any > other topic you desire. You will be amazed at the > lack of people who have > replaced a battery, or anything else on the vehicle > for that matter. > > We love our Westy and we also love our Prius, but > each for different > reasons. > > > Harold > -- > Harold & Faye Teer > 1991 Westy > Harrisonburg, VA > > > > On 6/28/07, Sudhir Desai <sudhir.desai@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Priuses don't pay for > > > themselves either > > > > I would contend that dollar for dollar, a new > Prius will cost much > > more in maintenance than a TDI converted vanagon, > while giving > > relatively the same fuel economy (you cannnot > truly compare a brick to > > a needle). I say this because after the batteries > die, you're stuck > > with another $10k repair bill. On top of that, I'm > sure California has > > strict heavy-metal disposal fees, which would > increase the cost of the > > repair significantly. > > > > just my $.02 of heavily anti hybrid-as-"save the > environment"-vehicle bias > > :D > > > > sudhir > > >

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