Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:36:36 -0700
Reply-To: Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Steven Johnson <sjohnso2000@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: slightVC: TDI vs hybrid (was: Re: TDI conversion thoughts)
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And I thought my wife and I were the only couple
that had this pair of vehicles..... :)
'91 Westy
'02 Prius
I've never regretted purchasing new either vehicle.
Especially as fuel prices rise.
There is another matter that will get debated
regarding gas mileage. For a while back there
was some changes in the EPA MPG rating of the
Prius because people were saying that it didn't
get the MPG that was listed. What I was wondering
is when they re-did the MPG tests, did they do it
with other vehicles as well. I would bet a real
apples to apples comparison. Just for the record,
our Prius actually reflects the original MPG on the
sticker quite well.
Steven
--- Harold Teer <teer.vanagon@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> I am a Westy owner who loves his '91 Westy purchased
> in '96. It is in
> excellent condition but we won't go into the money
> spent keeping it up or I
> may not love it as much.
>
> My wife and I also own a Prius and I think some
> correct information on the
> Prius is in order.
>
> The battery in the Prius is warranted for 8 years or
> 100,000 miles (10 years
> and 150,000 miles in California). Many, many people
> have over 200,000 miles
> on a Prius (original battery) and one person has
> driven their Prius over
> 285,000 miles without replacing the battery. And,
> the cost of a new battery
> is falling. It is now down to about $2,400 retail,
> which is down from about
> $3,000. Plus Toyota pays the dealer to turn any old
> battery (wrecked
> vehicle) back to Toyota.
>
> If you want facts and not speculation about the
> Prius battery, go to:
>
"http://www.toyota.com/html/hybridsynergyview/2006/fall/battery.html"
>
> If you want to learn anything else about the Prius,
> go to a great users
> group "http://priuschat.com/" and use the search
> engine for battery or any
> other topic you desire. You will be amazed at the
> lack of people who have
> replaced a battery, or anything else on the vehicle
> for that matter.
>
> We love our Westy and we also love our Prius, but
> each for different
> reasons.
>
>
> Harold
> --
> Harold & Faye Teer
> 1991 Westy
> Harrisonburg, VA
>
>
>
> On 6/28/07, Sudhir Desai <sudhir.desai@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Priuses don't pay for
> > > themselves either
> >
> > I would contend that dollar for dollar, a new
> Prius will cost much
> > more in maintenance than a TDI converted vanagon,
> while giving
> > relatively the same fuel economy (you cannnot
> truly compare a brick to
> > a needle). I say this because after the batteries
> die, you're stuck
> > with another $10k repair bill. On top of that, I'm
> sure California has
> > strict heavy-metal disposal fees, which would
> increase the cost of the
> > repair significantly.
> >
> > just my $.02 of heavily anti hybrid-as-"save the
> environment"-vehicle bias
> > :D
> >
> > sudhir
> >
>
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