Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:04:46 -0300
Reply-To: David Etter <detter@MAIL.AURACOM.COM>
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From: David Etter <detter@MAIL.AURACOM.COM>
Subject: Re: BusFusion Bound Trip Report #04
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David:
Your list is almost complete but, if you buy a Eurovan, I
probably won't wave to you unless you wave first.
There is a very neat "signature" that someone on the list has that
goes something like..
"pop pop- - whrrrrr- -kapow" (apologies for the misquote) that says
it all, and it's very accurate too.... those endearing traits are a
bond between 'rear engine' advocates (some call them masochists).
Those vans are a throwback to a simpler time, they appeal to
the rebel in us all; it says "The hell with modernity" - it was good
enough back then and it's good enough now.
But I do recognize that to some, speed and reliability are
paramount; to me just getting there and back in one piece is
something to celebrate. Or as my SO calls us.."The brotherhood of
pain" , but Good Luck in whatever you decide.
YMMV.
David (dsl82westy)
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David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> wrote<<
>I admit that I admire what Benny is saying about his subi engine. But on
>top of that amazing performance there are still many issues of Vanagon
>that are not solved by any engine conversion.
>
>My recent trip to Yosemite National Park with my rebuild engine brought
>up a lot of these issues besides the one associated with engine performance.
>
>The vangon is very lousy driving against head wind. Very noisy and ver poor
>handling. It made me slow down regardless if the engine was capable of going
>faster. It made very little difference the windows were closed or open. Radio
>was shut off. It added noise only but not music. Noise from wheel bearings
>and CV joints were over whelmingly loud. Speed would make it only worse.
>
>I am concerned that if I decide to go for a conversion and get whatever power
>it gets the other issues of vanagon will be there still. That would probably
>ruin all the fun to be faster. It's easy to get a taste of speed you are
>talking about. Just drive down a long stretch of hilly highway. It's easy
>to get to 80 MPH. But it will too make you face all other issues of Vanagon
>immediately. This is particularly true for westy because westies are noiser.
>
>I have not made up my mind. But I am saving money. I will decide between a
>late year Eurovan camper or a souped up westy with a subi. At the moment the
>old beast gets quite some negatives against it. What do you volks think?
>
>David
>
>
>
>--- Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
>
>> He he he... men, you don't have any idea how close we could have met
>> again!!! Good storry!!!
>> It was my plan to go there this weekend, but i ended up in New Brunswick
>> (weather wise), just south of where you are and of course, i had to end up
>> in PEI.
>>
>> So that is... 1677 miles in 5 days, ha ha ha, me CraSy! We had a blast me
>> and Sylvia FOR THE FIRST TIME ALONE this year, yea, a real Westy short road
>> trip in my Red Tornado Subaru powered van, the first one... YESSSSSSSSSSS,
>> men i'm sold for life to that engine!!!! Yea,EX: if you have 600km
>> (372miles) to go at 122 kmh (3821rpm OBD2 check) (75mph GPS), it's 6 hours
>> and not 7 or 8. Only today, we left this late morning the Fundy National
>> park and i was home at 7:30pm, that is about 625 miles.
>>
>> Top cruising speed was around 93mph, average was 72mph, some cool running at
>> 65mph, fuel... well, all i know is that i did between 260-300 miles on 1
>> tank, about the same as a 2.1L in good shape or better. But remember,
>> average speed was 72mph (GPS)
>>
>> The funny thing is we did 3 National park in 4 night, Kouchibouguak in NB,
>> Prince Edward National Park in Cavendish and the Fundy National Park in NB..
>>
>> Damn, Canada can be nice!!!!!! Ho Canadaaaaaaaaa....
>>
>> Good Fourth of July to you guys!
>>
>> A lot of pictures to come.
>>
>> Benny
>> http://www.benplace.com/
>>
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>
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