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Date:         Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:28:32 -0700
Reply-To:     Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Update on stalling '87
Comments: To: "Mike \"Rocket J Squirrel\" Elliott" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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u da man... BINGO!! ;-)

-----Original Message----- >From: "Mike \"Rocket J Squirrel\" Elliott" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM> >Sent: Jul 5, 2007 1:16 PM >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: Update on stalling '87 > >I am watching this thread closely because on Sunday I am heading up >highway 395 to Bishop, CA., where a high of 102F is predicted. Three >degrees hotter the following day. I, too, am driving a 1.9L. A good time >will be had by all. If the cooling system can handle it. If not, then >it's nighttime driving. I went across the desert a couple times with my >old man when I was a kid. Burlap sack of water strapped across the front >grill, bomb-shaped evaporative cooler mounted above Mom's door. Secret >is finding classic courtyard style motorcourt motel with pool in middle. >That, and some cold beer. I know the drill. > >-- > >Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott >71 Type 2: the Wonderbus >84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana") >74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano >KG6RCR > >On 7/5/2007 10:24 AM Joseph Fortino wrote: > >> my 85 1.9l is doing this only when really hot, i was going to cover fuel lines up >> like uncle joel suggested, but whats weird is it acts like an ecu/afm issue >> or like other said hall sensor in the dizzy. oh :) >> >> it plays like this with my ride, driving temps low 90's ok, when i hit >> 100+ it likes to get hot and it just cut out, like the gas pedel is being let up. >> but power come back.. off and on.. AFM is DROPPING IDLE when the cover is off >> i think this sucker is toast. >> >> I have replaced the ECU with the non digijet setup couple years back.. man this is >> driving me nuts.. I was thinking it was the temp2..its going to get 116 today >> will drive home with the rear lid up maybe like i did on tuesday.. made it home >> >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> >>> Sent: Jul 5, 2007 9:31 AM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Re: Update on stalling '87 >>> >>> --- TC <trclark@SHAW.CA> wrote: >>> >>>>> I have rebuilt ECUs in stock if you find you need one. They are $250 plus >>>> $100 core charge. They are superior to the other ones out on the market >>>> (Fuel Injection Corporation rebuilds). I tried these at one point and had a >>>> 50% mortality rate (in other words 50% of them were defective right out of >>>> the box!). >>>> Do you also have a similar experience with FIC rebuils on the 1.9 afm's ??? >>>> What about the brand new FIC fuel pumps any ffed bacl on those ?? >>>> >>> In my opinion the problem isn't likely to be a defective ECU. AFM is likely. >>> But I have a different observation. >>> >>> The 87 starts and spins fast when it is cold. This already tells a lot about >>> it. First the ignition is fine. All wires that sometimes will break all your >>> bones loose are connected and the plugs are spitting fire. 2ndly the fuel line >>> is too connected up front to the tank with proper effort from the pump. >>> >>> The temp sensors appear to be doing their job by telling the ECU to feed more >>> fuel when they feel cold. And the engine does spin and spin faster. The only >>> trouble is when it does warm up it coughs. That tells me that the air/fuel mixture >>> is not right for warm idle. >>> >>> Check for air leak in the intake system, especially between the AFM and the actual >>> intake manifold. My 83 and 84 will idle even with the AFM cable unplugged. >>> This is a very nice Vanagon feature allowing me to point fingers at other parts >>> of the engine. Be aware that very often 10 fingers are not enough. Use your toes. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >>> Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate >>> in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. >>> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 >>


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